Endgame challenge

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
White to move

[fen]3B4/8/2B5/1K6/8/8/3p4/3k4 w - - 0 1[/fen]

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Kb4 looks to be the only way to start... I'll keep looking at it...
be right back with more that I can get. for future reference, after the white monarch gets to b4, black's king casn not get on d1 again, or else Kc3 would win.

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
White to move

[fen]3B4/8/2B5/1K6/8/8/3p4/3k4 w - - 0 1[/fen]

Assess
It looks like a draw

ex: 1.Bf3+ Ke1! 2.Ba5 Kf2 draw

if white doesn't start with Bf3+ black either promotes or exhanges the pawn for a bishop.

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Originally posted by tomtom232
It looks like a draw

ex: 1.Bf3+ Ke1! 2.Ba5 Kf2 draw

if white doesn't start with Bf3+ black either promotes or exhanges the pawn for a bishop.
what about 1. Kb4?
I think white may win, just can't prove it...
yet. Edit: not 2. Ba5? but Bh4+! would win.

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Originally posted by rubberjaw30
Kb4 looks to be the only way to start... I'll keep looking at it...
be right back with more that I can get. for future reference, after the white monarch gets to b4, black's king casn not get on d1 again, or else Kc3 would win.
1.Kb4 Ke2 2.Ba4 d1(Q)3.Bxd1 KXd1 drawn.

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Originally posted by tomtom232
1.Kb4 Ke2 2.Ba4(forced)d1(Q)3.Bxd1 KXd1 drawn.
1. Kb4 Ke2 2.Bb5+

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Originally posted by rubberjaw30
what about 1. Kb4?
I think white may win, just can't prove it...
yet. Edit: not 2. Ba5? but Bh4+! would win.
I'v changed my mind white wins with 1.Bd7!
never mind

...Kc2 2.Bf5+ Kb2 3.Bg4 Kc2 drawn

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Originally posted by rubberjaw30
1. Kb4 Ke2 2.Bb5+
that will just repeat postions. i think

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Originally posted by rubberjaw30
what about 1. Kb4?
I think white may win, just can't prove it...
yet. Edit: not 2. Ba5? but Bh4+! would win.
I missed that so 2...Ke1?? but 2....Kc2

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Originally posted by tomtom232
that will just repeat postions. i think
no!
white does win, and I will prove it by asking for black's move after Bb5+!

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Originally posted by tomtom232
I missed that so 2...Ke1?? but 2....Kc2
Kc2 is met by Ba4+ and Kc1 where there isa pin on the pawn...
WHITE WINS!!!

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Originally posted by rubberjaw30
Kc2 is met by Ba4+ and Kc1 where there isa pin on the pawn...
WHITE WINS!!!
I was looking quickly but now you have me interested.

1.Kb4 Ke1 I missed this before!

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
White to move

[fen]3B4/8/2B5/1K6/8/8/3p4/3k4 w - - 0 1[/fen]

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White's winning move is
1. Kb4
if 1. ... Kc2, then 2. Ba4+ Kc1 3. Bg5 king moves away, Kc3 wins
if 1. ... Kc1 then Bg5 followed by Ba4 no matter what
if 1. ... Ke1 2. Bh4+ Kf1 3. Bb5+ Kg4 4. Be2 and white wins
if 1. ... Ke2 2. Bb5+ and similar technique wins...
this is a won position for white.

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Originally posted by rubberjaw30
White's winning move is
1. Kb4
if 1. ... Kc2, then 2. Ba4+ Kc1 3. Bg5 king moves away, Kc3 wins
if 1. ... Kc1 then Bg5 followed by Ba4 no matter what
if 1. ... Ke1 2. Bh4+ Kf1 3. Bb5+ Kg4 4. Be2 and white wins
if 1. ... Ke2 2. Bb5+ and similar technique wins...
this is a won position for white.
with the ...Ke1! line blacks second move would be ...Kd1!. and thats a draw.

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Originally posted by tomtom232
with the ...Ke1 line blacks second move would be ...Kd1.
Kc3

Edit: wins