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    31 Dec '10 09:08
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    This game was brought up in conversation last night.

    Is that game included by Smyslov in his My Best Games of Chess - 1935-1957?

    I committed the sin of sins by lending out my copy years ago.
    Never lend out chess books, you never see them again.
    Yes.

    toet.
  2. e4
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    31 Dec '10 11:47
    Thank you.

    Discussion stemmed from here.

    http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chesscollection?cid=1001111

    Which does not have the game, thinking the original book that Smyslov wrote
    (in Russian) some of the games were left out when it was translated into English.

    The same book Toet: My Best Games of Chess - 1935-1957?
    Not one of the other collections of Smylov's games.
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    31 Dec '10 11:552 edits
    Bums like us can produce these games given the chance.

    Don't stand back and admire them till they blind you, rope them in.
    devour them, nick their ideas. You can play like these guys.

    I spend loads of time on here de-mystying the game and breaking it down.
    Producing games like this are within all of you.

    This game played on RHP has strong echoes with the Smylov game.

    I played the delayed Ruy Lopez. With the d-pawn on c6 I never have to worry
    about Black kicking in a d5. The antidote to all 1.e4 openings.
    The delayed Lopez Exchange was part of my opening rep for over 20 years.

    The moment this appeard all I planned was getting a Knight to f5.


    I even offered a pawn to get it there. (he never took it)

    That is why I played 9...Bd2 so he could not pin the Knight on c3.
    I never played played 9...Nd2 intending Nf1-g3-f5...


    ....because he can play Bb4 and if I hit it with c3 I suddenly have a backward pawn
    on an open file and he has ideas.
    So I have to follow c3 with d4 and he can swap on d4 and play c5.
    That was not part of the plan.

    Just like Smyslov there is tactical flurry where I nick two pawns with the
    same delay in recapturing trick as Smyslov.

    I too undouble pawns just to grab the e-file.
    (I could ot think of anything else to do with my Bishop).

    I hold the e-file like Smylov held the 7th. Black cannot trade Rooks as
    the King & pawn ending, the easiest of all endings to win (if you are winning)
    is a stroll.

    And I think my swap off pawn sac transposing into a won pawn ending
    is just as good as Smyslov's. (in fact it's better) 😏

    Judge for yourself.

    If a crap kicker like me can do something this then so can you.
    Now get out there and play then post me a masterpiece.

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    31 Dec '10 15:32
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    Thank you.

    Discussion stemmed from here.

    http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chesscollection?cid=1001111

    Which does not have the game, thinking the original book that Smyslov wrote
    (in Russian) some of the games were left out when it was translated into English.

    The same book Toet: My Best Games of Chess - 1935-1957?
    Not one of the other collections of Smylov's games.
    Could be different books,you sowed seeds of doubt

    The book I refer to is Smyslov's best games,volume 1: 1935-1957 by Smyslov,published by Moravian chess in the Czech republic and translated into english by Ken Neat.

    By the way,that one and volume 2,1958-1995 are great books.

    And in volume 2 he played you (Chandler) in Hastings 88/89!Though I thought you were more a KID kind of guy,not a QID 😉

    toet.
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    Originally posted by toeternitoe
    Could be different books,you sowed seeds of doubt

    And in volume 2 he played you (Chandler) in Hastings 88/89!Though I thought you were more a KID kind of guy,not a QID 😉

    toet.
    Geoff, have you been holding out? Did you play at Hastings? Dude, when I make it over there, I'm not buying the round, I'm paying the tab!

    Paul
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    01 Jan '11 05:092 edits
    Originally posted by Paul Leggett
    Geoff, have you been holding out? Did you play at Hastings? Dude, when I make it over there, I'm not buying the round, I'm paying the tab!

    Paul
    Dude, dont ever say that in Edinburgh, its like fifty dollars for a burger and three hundred for a pint of beer! They even tried to charge people in their own homes for hosting private parties with more than six guests!
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    01 Jan '11 08:501 edit
    Nice game GP.

    May I ask; why the delay in taking on c6? You seem to lose a tempo. If it is to trick the Knight to f6, why is that so desirable for White?
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    01 Jan '11 16:43
    Hi GP34,

    What that other greenpawn fellow said... So it's worth burning a tempo to avoid a ...d5 push? I guess Ill never understand you higher rated guys. 😞
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    01 Jan '11 21:11
    I may use it as a theme for a blog.

    Now been up and drinking/celebrating since Thursday night.
    Going to bed.
  10. e4
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    Hi To et.

    Possibly the Vidmar game, along with 10 others were left out of the orginal
    English version edit by P.H,Clarke in 1958.

    Vasily V. Smyslov: My Best Games of Chess: 1935-1957

    To produce an English edition of this work it was felt desirable to round it off by
    adding a selection of his games from the period 1952-1957 and at the same time
    to omit a few of the original games for the sake of balance.

    In fact I have left out 11 games and added a further 18 to bring the
    total to 67 in all.

    So perhaps the Vidmar game was one of those given the chop.
    I'll look at a 1958 edition sometime next week and confirm.
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    02 Jan '11 17:30
    I never understood why they make these changes when publishing a book in another language.

    never will

    toet.
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    Marketing my dear boy...Marketing.

    Smyslov wins the world title in 1957.
    They have this dog-eared copy of Smyslov's 'My Best Games 1937-1951'

    They throw out 11 games annotated by Smyslov. Put in 18 games not
    annotated by Smyslov rename the book. 'My Best Games 1937-1957.

    Marketing.
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    03 Jan '11 14:33
    Originally posted by Paul Leggett
    Geoff, have you been holding out? Did you play at Hastings? Dude, when I make it over there, I'm not buying the round, I'm paying the tab!

    Paul
    That was not me, it was my son whose real name is
    actullay Murgatoid which he hated so calls himself Murray.

    He got revenge by producing about a book on how to beat me at Chess.

    😉
  14. Standard memberExuma
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    26 Jan '11 01:48
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    I may use it as a theme for a blog.

    Now been up and drinking/celebrating since Thursday night.
    Going to bed.
    Hi GP thought you might enjoy this game in the Delayed Exchange Ruy. I was amusing myself against the box by trying to find a winning endgame for white that the box did not "expect". Boring for some folks I bet, but hey, I was stuck at work with no supervision.

    First moment is this position



    I played Kf1! just to trick the box into castling 🙂 Next a bishop sac with the rook still on h1

    Then here



    I played Ke2! This allowed a HUGE lead in development thanks to the box being unable to resist winning a rook, despite already being up a piece. After a few checks and the big exchanges, white remains down a piece, but with a pawn majority.

    From this position



    I turned on the box for both sides and left it to play the endgame, came back and found white had won 🙂
  15. Standard memberExuma
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    26 Jan '11 01:50
    Here is the whole game

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