I personally never use them as white, but a bit of analysis with fritz and practice OTB has lead me to believe that when used properly, white can pretty much always go up a pawn. Black might get some counterplay, but at intermediate levels, material is a lot more important, because advanced beginners often waste occasional moves. Your thoughts?
Originally posted by ih8sensThe french is a suprise weapon?
... i said 'pretty much' after the 'blunder' .. makes sense to me...
i'm just saying the line is actually much sharper, and that the fans of fianchetto's might have something to stand on.
It's like the french, those that don't know it will get beat by it.
Originally posted by ih8sensSee http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fianchetto It is a result of hypermodernism in chess
I personally never use them as white, but a bit of analysis with fritz and practice OTB has lead me to believe that when used properly, white can pretty much always go up a pawn. Black might get some counterplay, but at intermediate levels, material is a lot more important, because advanced beginners often waste occasional moves. Your thoughts?
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Originally posted by Diet CokeDunno about that but it's a pain in the a$$!
The french is a suprise weapon?
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I regularly use fianchetto openings as black (Sicilian Dragon & Dutch defence) but rarely use them as white as they don't fit in with my favourite white openings.
The long-term power of the bishop on either long diagonal can be highly influencial & shouldn't be underestimated.
Here's a double fianchetto in a Hippopotamus game by move 4!
1.g3...e5
2.Bg2...Nc6
3.b3...Bc5
4.Bb2
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Originally posted by SquelchbelchYou totally misplayed the opening.
Dunno about that but it's a pain in the a$$!
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I regularly use fianchetto openings as black (Sicilian Dragon & Dutch defence) but rarely use them as white as they don't fit in with my favourite white openings.
The long-term power of the bishop on either long diagonal can be highly influencial & shouldn't be underestimated.
Here's a double fia ...[text shortened]... 2795950[/gid]
[fen]r1bqk1nr/pppp1ppp/2n5/2b1p3/8/1P4P1/PBPPPPBP/RN1QK1NR b KQkq - 0 4[/fen]
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Originally posted by RagnorakHuh?
You totally misplayed the opening.
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I though I played a textbook ultra-hyper-megamodern Hippo to move 9!
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The reason being the knights on d2 & e2, both bishops fianchettoed & I'm ready to advance pawns & exploit any poor move from black.
In the hippo, you don't really have a plan past the first 10 moves or so - but you hope your lack of plan is compensated for by the oddness of the position & a bad plan from your opponent.
I did win the game, so it can't have been all bad!
Originally posted by exigentskyWelcome to the world of the Hippopotamus.
That's really not sound reasoning. You could have completely misplayed the opening and still won from a blunder.
Apparently it plays well against a computer, because the program has to form a plan early on & they have trouble doing that.
I still say at move 9 in the position above I have a very solid, if rather dull opening.
Where are the weaknesses in that position?
By the way, I don't play the Hippo any more as it was just an experiment & all that nudging of pawns in closed positions doesn't really suit my style.
Originally posted by ih8senswhat???
I personally never use them as white, but a bit of analysis with fritz and practice OTB has lead me to believe that when used properly, white can pretty much always go up a pawn. Black might get some counterplay, but at intermediate levels, material is a lot more important, because advanced beginners often waste occasional moves. Your thoughts?
I don't care how you play it...
putting a bishop on g2 or b2 does not magically garuntee a free pawn...
even against not-so-proper defence
that is like saying that I can move my king to f4 by move 4 and garuntee a rounded up pawn (dramatized of course)