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Fritz 8 vs Feivel

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
This is a book line? Black looks like he's getting raped!
Actually it is the other way my dear young person. More like white just got robbed in broad daylight 🙂

Feivel

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This is better than TV. I'm guessing White will play d3 to get the dark bishop out to threaten to attack the defender knight on e7? Or O-O to get the rook on the pawn? Stay tuned.

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I think that's the machoest King I've ever seen.

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Originally posted by Feivel
Ncb4 then a3 and black can resign without a moments hesitation.

Feivel
8. .. Ncb4 9. a3 Nxc2+ ??

Am I missing something? Or are u suggesting that white plays a move b4 a3?

D

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You have to admire Fievel's guts. However Fritz makes its living devouring the guts of foolhardy players. It's the Grendel of the chess world, for the Anglo-Saxon fans.

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Originally posted by KneverKnight
This is better than TV. I'm guessing White will play d3 to get the dark bishop out to threaten to attack the defender knight on e7? Or O-O to get the rook on the pawn? Stay tuned.
d4 is the book move.

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Originally posted by buddy2
You have to admire Fievel's guts. However Fritz makes its living devouring the guts of foolhardy players. It's the Grendel of the chess world, for the Anglo-Saxon fans.
Fritz is not that good at correspondence chess. Fritz the GM killer played a timed over the board game and was aided by eight processers. Fritz that played Kramnik is not the same fritz that these players in here have. I think the player will beat fritz somewhat easily.

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Originally posted by Ragnorak
8. .. Ncb4 9. a3 Nxc2+ ??

Am I missing something? Or are u suggesting that white plays a move b4 a3?

D
What happens after Kd1...Nxa1? The rook isn't in the game so why take it and lose a necessary defender?

Feivel

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Originally posted by Feivel
What happens after Kd1...Nxa1? The rook isn't in the game so why take it and lose a necessary defender?

Feivel
I think Dan Heisman (in the CB CD 'The Computer Analyzes the Fried Liver and Lolli) claims that Nxa1 is equals, whilst the 'recommended' Nd4 leaves White a little better.

Not seen the CD, but have seen his Traxler one and wasn't impressed by the analysis there, so that assessment should be treated cautiously.

Good line to play against Fritz this - so many variations that hopefully clear assessments of lines will be beyond its horizon.

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Originally posted by Osse
I think Dan Heisman (in the CB CD 'The Computer Analyzes the Fried Liver and Lolli) claims that Nxa1 is equals, whilst the 'recommended' Nd4 leaves White a little better.

Not seen the CD, but have seen his Traxler one and wasn't impressed by the analysis there, so that assessment should be treated cautiously.

Good line to play against Fritz this - so many variations that hopefully clear assessments of lines will be beyond its horizon.
Heisman is wrong. Nxa1 removes a much needed defender from black's army and black needs all his pieces.

Feivel

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Originally posted by Feivel
Heisman is wrong. Nxa1 removes a much needed defender from black's army and black needs all his pieces.

Feivel
I've never played either side of the Fried Liver Attack that I can recall. And I'll add that after seeing the opening of this game I'm now certain I never will, but... I think I've gotten hooked on this game. I'm finding myself rooting hard for Feivel (the human). This thread and game are good ideas.

Nxa1 seems bad to me also. Black can certainly trade down later, but right now there are bigger fish to fry. Black needs every knight he can get his hands own so trading one off for a useless rook may be fine if you're heading into an endgame and already up a little material, but certainly not right now.

I'm really interested in white's next move.

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Originally posted by wib
I've never played either side of the Fried Liver Attack that I can recall. And I'll add that after seeing the opening of this game I'm now certain I never will, but... I think I've gotten hooked on this game. I'm finding myself rooting h ...[text shortened]... ot right now.

I'm really interested in white's next move.
As am I. I am interested to see the silicon monster's full game because I don't think it will win. Right now I am giving Fritz a 5 percent chance if it gets out of this tactical slugfest alive. In either event, I will get out of this alive. If I can survive the ending (even with the advantage I will have) remains to be seen. After all Fritz is running on a duel processor but if it's opening is any indication, Fritz is gonna be renamed Fried Fritz.

Feivel

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Just out of curiosity, do you have Fritz yourself. Have you played any practice games with the monster?

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Originally posted by buddy2
Just out of curiosity, do you have Fritz yourself. Have you played any practice games with the monster?
I have Fritz 5 and I never upgraded. i have played Fritz 8 on here (agreed upon beforehand) and I never lost. Shredder 8 is another story. Although I have never lost, I have only drew it. Fritz i beat quite handily and CM was one of my easier games 🙂

Feivel

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I'm glad somebody is beating Fritz (somebody human I mean, assuming that Fievel is flesh and blood).

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