From a 1375 rated player?

Originally posted by amolv06
I'm not insinuating anything...please don't take it that way. I just find this really surprising from a player rated in the 1300s: Game 5229133

Everyone makes mistakes, don't they?

Originally posted by Fat Lady
This is actually remarkably common. Here is the most successful example ever seen on this site:
User 285560

I almost fell off my chair seeing that one!Brilliant! 😵
That must've taken him a lot of work 🙄

Originally posted by amolv06
I'd like to know if there was some more devious plan to his moves. What was he thinking that made him overlook the fool's mate?

Troppo says: it was "deliberate", not that he wanted to be mated, but I wanted to experiment with the different mates.

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Originally posted by amolv06
I'm not insinuating anything...please don't take it that way. I just find this really surprising from a player rated in the 1300s: Game 5229133

White deserved to get beat playing g4 on his second move, which violates all opening principles.

Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
White deserved to get beat playing g4 on his second move, which violates all opening principles.

Quite right. By delaying g4 until his second move, rather than playing the superior 1.g4! White deserved to lose horribly.

Originally posted by Katastroof
I almost fell off my chair seeing that one!Brilliant! 😵
That must've taken him a lot of work 🙄

not really, just a couple of dummy accounts resigning to each other. the first batch gets to 1600 by 'winning' the 1200 accounts, the next batch gets to 2000 'winning' the 1600s and so on...

Originally posted by Fat Lady
Quite right. By delaying g4 until his second move, rather than playing the superior 1.g4! White deserved to lose horribly.

hahah, I was just about to say something like that. 🙂

Originally posted by amolv06
That said, I'd like to know if there was some more devious plan to his moves. What was he thinking that made him overlook the fool's mate?

First as "HfrMine antiperso" said, this was deliberate,
I hadn't played chess for ages until this one, and wanted to try basic mates and see reactions of regular players to such basic situations in order to start it off again.

I also tried this very "opening" in my second game Game 5229174 but my opponent failed to take advantage of it, so as you can see it if you look up the following moves, I then let him have my queen deliberately - but he in turn made a silly move too so I could have his queen back only 3 moves later

(me white)

so goes chess playing ....

From these first two lets say "experimental" games on, I 've been playing normally so a rating around 1300 must match my actual chess level, although I've only been playing weaker players so far (under 1200 for most) 🙂

And don't worry I won't feel humiliated by your commenting my games even the silliest 😀




Edit: phew hard time inserting boards 😀

Originally posted by Troppo
First as "HfrMine antiperso" said, this was deliberate,
I hadn't played chess for ages until this one, and wanted to try basic mates and see reactions of regular players to such basic situations in order to start it off again.

I also tried this very "opening" in my second game Game 5229174 but my opponent failed to take advantage of it, so as you c ...[text shortened]... bP/1PN1P3/P1PP4/R1B1K1NR w KQkq -[/fen]


Edit: phew hard time inserting boards 😀

An 1100 player failing to take advantage is a bit different than 1300 or better.

g4? Experimental is one way to put it. You're a strange one Troppo!

Originally posted by wormwood
not really, just a couple of dummy accounts resigning to each other. the first batch gets to 1600 by 'winning' the 1200 accounts, the next batch gets to 2000 'winning' the 1600s and so on...

Well,I assume you need a separate email adress for each account?So making fake email adresses,then setting up all those accounts,matching them,making a move,resigning.That seems like a lot of work to me LOL
And to what purpose?You can't even show that rating trying to fool anyone because it's so obvious fake.All you can do is say "Look everyone,I created a fake rating.Awesome,isn't it?" 😕

It's called the Fool's Mate, nothing new here.

Originally posted by Katastroof
Well,I assume you need a separate email adress for each account?So making fake email adresses,then setting up all those accounts,matching them,making a move,resigning.That seems like a lot of work to me LOL
And to what purpose?You can't even show that rating trying to fool anyone because it's so obvious fake.All you can do is say "Look everyone,I created a fake rating.Awesome,isn't it?" 😕

yeah, well, I haven't seen a cheater yet who was particularly bright. I've seen many who think they're pretty clever though. 🙂


it's sort of same like in real life bank robberies. the overwhelming majority of them get caught in a nearby bar, showing off the money and buying rounds for everyone.

Hi Troppo.

Thanks for making an old man very happy.
As I said, I've given out a Fool's Mate.

I had this in a Blitz game a few weeks ago, just after our game infact.
I'm Black.



Would like to see the whole of your game from the position you posted.

to PGN a game it works like this:

(pgn)1.f4 e5 2.fxe5 d6 3.exd6 Bxd6 4.Nc3 Qh4 5.g3 Qxg3(/pgn)

Change round brackets ( ) for square brackets [ ] and it should work.

Next time you want to see more mating patterns and test out
an opening idea that look very unsound - I'm just a mouse click away.

EDITS: here I am given out advice on how to PGN a game
and it took me two attempts to get mine working. Huh!

Must be something in the air. I just won a game in the same way (2 move mate).

Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
White deserved to get beat playing g4 on his second move, which violates all opening principles.

Yeah, not many openings are normally steered toward a mate in 2. It might have made sense in another context. The Bird's opening is stupid anyway.