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Well Smaugster I have to say I agree.............I mean he sounds like a nice guy and all that but surely it's about quality not quantity!

I know what youu mean about holding up tourneys we are both in one with him I have finished 4 games and with him I'm on move 3!!

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He doesn't like to resign either. Take Game 3555236 on move 31 at time of writing. OK I know its in progress so I shouldn't post it and I am only a R, N and a few pawns up so perhaps he can save it ( πŸ˜‰ ) but my if I were him I would not be playing on in his position.

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And if so many people hadn't voted in this stupid vacation system then most of the games could possibly have been timeouted long ago.

Lets repeal the vacation system.

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Originally posted by Dragon Fire
He doesn't like to resign either. Take Game 3555236 on move 31 at time of writing. OK I know its in progress so I shouldn't post it and I am [b]only a R, N and a few pawns up so perhaps he can save it ( πŸ˜‰ ) but my if I were him I would not be playing on in his position.[/b]
I'll have to use a Turkish saying for this situation, yet again. It does not translate nicely but here we go.

Evey man eats yoghurt differently.

So, let your opponent play however (and how many games too by the way, since he paid for it) he wants; if he does not want to resign, then fine. There's nothing wrong with that. (Although, I get frustrated sometimes when my opponent refuses to resign in hopless positions like this.)

Anyway, back to the Turkish proverb, we (Turkish people) do not tell (or force down their throat) foreigners eat yoghurt plain. Although, it's gross (to most Turkish people, we love to eat plain yoghurt) to add honey and other gross sugary stuff (spoils the great plain yoghurt taste), if they wanna spoil their yoghurt that's fine.

We do not teach French how to eat 'their' cheese. Do we?πŸ˜€

At the end of the day, everybody's choice's will be different, we need to respect even though we disagree with them.

Period.

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Originally posted by kenan
I'll have to use a Turkish saying for this situation, yet again. It does not translate nicely but here we go.

Evey man eats yoghurt differently.

So, let your opponent play however (and how many games too by the way, since he paid for it) he wants; if he does not want to resign, then fine. There's nothing wrong with that. (Although, I get frustrated some ...[text shortened]... ce's will be different, we need to respect even though we disagree with them.

Period.
I respect his choice. He has an absolute right to play on until I mate him but we are really talking about the number of games this guy is playing concurrently and the points being made are that (1) he continues to take on ever more games and (2) doesn't resign the "lost" ones but (3) is getting increasingly behind on time (and holding up those tournaments) and has put up his vacation flag to gain more time.

He has an absolute right to do this but most of us cannot understand why he wants to play so many games nor how he manages to maintain a half decent rating.

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Originally posted by Dragon Fire
I respect his choice. He has an absolute right to play on until I mate him but we are really talking about the number of games this guy is playing concurrently and the points being made are that (1) he continues to take on ever more games and (2) doesn't resign the "lost" ones but (3) is getting increasingly behind on time (and holding up those tournamen ...[text shortened]... stand why he wants to play so many games nor how he manages to maintain a half decent rating.
I understand your concerns but that's what he likes and we should let him be and refrain from such threads accusing him of doing something 'fishy'.

If he is he surely cannot go far.

If he is not, he is absolutely sucking everything he can out of RHP and the subscription money he paid. Good for him.

So goes another Turkish saying againπŸ™‚ to express this: Let's not stone the tree that gives plenty of fruit.

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Originally posted by kenan
I understand your concerns but that's what he likes and we should let him be and refrain from such threads accusing him of doing something 'fishy'.

If he is he surely cannot go far.

If he is not, he is absolutely sucking everything he can out of RHP and the subscription money he paid. Good for him.

So goes another Turkish saying againπŸ™‚ to express this: Let's not stone the tree that gives plenty of fruit.
(1) I am not concerned (just commenting); and
(2) I cannot recollect accusing him of anything "fishy"!

We are just waiting for time to catch up with him as no one expects him to be able to cope with this game load when his vacation time runs out.

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Originally posted by Dragon Fire
(1) I am not concerned (just commenting); and
(2) I cannot recollect accusing him of anything "fishy"!

We are just waiting for time to catch up with him as no one expects him to be able to cope with this game load when his vacation time runs out.
Not you particularly but I remember Fat Lady's remark: There's something fishy going on here.

In reply to Sicilian Smaug, if he is not keeping up and not moving within the agreed time controls he will lose. There should be no problem.

Also, the "abuse of vacation system" is an issue that has been going since it was introduced. There's nothing to do about it. Is there?

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Originally posted by kenan
Also, the "abuse of vacation system" is an issue that has been going since it was introduced. There's nothing to do about it. Is there?
Take my 2 games with him. In my opinion I am winning both and they are the last 2 games in Tournament 2058 but both could take, at least, another 10 moves for me to mate him.

At his current rate of moving that will take another 70 days before the next round can commence. Multiply that by how many games in how many tournaments and you are going to get a lot of people fed up.

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Originally posted by Dragon Fire
Take my 2 games with him. In my opinion I am winning both and they are the last 2 games in Tournament 2058 but both could take, at least, another 10 moves for me to mate him.

At his current rate of moving that will take another 70 days before the next round can commence. Multiply that by how many games in how many tournaments and you are going to get a lot of people fed up.
:'(

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Originally posted by Dragon Fire
Take my 2 games with him. In my opinion I am winning both and they are the last 2 games in Tournament 2058 but both could take, at least, another 10 moves for me to mate him.

At his current rate of moving that will take another 70 days before the next round can commence. Multiply that by how many games in how many tournaments and you are going to get a lot of people fed up.
Yes, but when his holiday allowance runs out he simply won't be able to keep up with his games in progress and they'll end. It's possible to drag out individual games for several years, but not that many - it just becomes impossible to cope with the numbers. Based on a very quick look at a few of his games his natural rating is around 1400. By refusing to resign, taking the maximum amount of time he can, and so on he can drag out games for several months longer than he should be able to - with a 3/7 timebank and say 15 moves to mate that's about 6 weeks.

What I've found is the more games I have the higher my rating goes, in the short term. It is natural to take longer in games that are unfavourable - for one thing the positions tend to be harder - so the rate of wins tends to be higher than the rate of losses, which leads to a higher equillibrium rating. Obviously eventually you have to take the losses that have built up and your rating drops again. But - and I will never do this 'cos it's stupid - you can just start even more games and push up the win rate to deal with these new losses, then the next limiting factor becomes the number of games it is possible to move in per day. He can put off that crash with the vacation system for 1 month. Soon his rating will slump and he can start the cycle over again, the only thing is it won't work properly this time as he has to build up the number of games in progress slowly to just cancel out the losses, but he won't realise this and instead start far too many games all at once. He's probably trying to get to 2,000 or something like that, but it won't work - a 1,600 player could possibly do it with this method if they planned it carefully, but not a weaker player who is reacting to the more games higher rating effect - they'll need about 30 wins for each loss which is too many even with 1000 games at a time.

Edits: loses ---> losses 😞

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I didn't think it would happen--at least not that dramatically--I thought he'd surely have the sense to see that he bit off too much, then keep plodding forward with his existing games and not take on any new ones.

But you will notice from his profile that he voluntarily gave up--he didn't get overwhelmed by the clock. Well, he did, but still he made a willful choice to stop playing a lot of the games as you see from his updated profile.

Nice prediction, naysayers!

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