help with sicllian

Originally posted by kmac27
when i play the sicicilian as black that does come to mind and you can pawn storm the queenside but i dont think its a very good idea. Nbd7 is also a bad move. first you are suppose to move e6. the sicicilian is a very sharp opening and Nbd7 cannot be decided until later in the game. also why not go Bd5 and attack his rook?he still has to waste one more move ...[text shortened]... you can develope faster. i'll play you a game and you can test out your sicicilian against me.

Oh yeah, I forgot about Nbd7. Yeah, e6 is the only move here, then f4, the n Be7 or Qb6 (poisoned pawn).

i just tried that line against the computer and it pretty much raped me i wouldn't suggest it i just had to see for myself.

cmsmaster can you show me the position of the posend pawn position i've heard of it but never seen it.

Originally posted by kmac27
cmsmaster can you show me the position of the posend pawn position i've heard of it but never seen it.

Here you go...

so its blacks move right? can you show me what the lines are leading up to it and what happens if he takes the pawn? sorry if i'm asking too much i'm just curious.

Originally posted by kmac27
so its blacks move right? can you show me what the lines are leading up to it and what happens if he takes the pawn? sorry if i'm asking too much i'm just curious.

No, white to move. A few main options. Nb3 saves the pawn, Qd2 gives it up for what white believes to be compensation, and a3 also protects the pawn in a different manner than Nb3. Note Qd3 is possible here, but it puts the queen on a light square when it should be attacking the dark squares around the king.

Don't worry about the questions, although I'm not too well informed on this opening, because I've only just atarted using this variation.

Originally posted by moon 111
tell me what you think of this opening:

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Bg5 Nd7 7.Bc4 b5 8.Ndxb5?

what do you think post comments

Ndb5 is more effective if black has played Qc7 and White has Bf1.
THis makes the black queen to move again
Here in my opinion "Not recomended"

Originally posted by moon 111
[fen]rnbqkb1r/5ppp/p2ppn2/1N4B1/4P3/2NB4/PPP2PPP/R2QK2R w KQkq - 0 1[/fen]

Here, If I were black I would play ...axb5 Nxb5 (unless white wants to trade bishops) Be7 0-0 And black has some tactics available like Ra5 for example, skewering the knight to the bishop and hoping for Nxe4 next (luring the bishop away from defending and winning a pawn) this is only possible because white is down a knight... and this is only one example of a trap which white can fall into

I consider it a blitz variation only.

Originally posted by zebano
I consider it a blitz variation only.

I consider it an idiot variation only, neither white nor black is likely to follow that line.

Originally posted by cmsMaster
I consider it an idiot variation only, neither white nor black is likely to follow that line.

I've got a 1900 USCF player who will sac the knight for 3 pawns in blitz games against weaker opposition. He also plays the bishops opening in serious tournaments...

Originally posted by zebano
I've got a 1900 USCF player who will sac the knight for 3 pawns in blitz games against weaker opposition. He also plays the bishops opening in serious tournaments...

That's fantastic, but like I said it won't be likely for this two happen. 1.It's two pawns here, not 3. 2. Black isn't even following mainline open sicilian moves-so how often will white get the chance to even play the sac??