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  1. 03 Feb '07 06:36
    would you agree that to win, you rely on the opponents mistakes? that if you just wait, and maintain your pieces, that without making crazy calculations and complicated attacks that you can out-maneuver and outplay our opponent until he messes up so that you win?
  2. 03 Feb '07 06:38
    Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
    would you agree that to win, you rely on the opponents mistakes? that if you just wait, and maintain your pieces, that without making crazy calculations and complicated attacks that you can out-maneuver and outplay our opponent until he messes up so that you win?
    Not always.

    Game 2233158
  3. 03 Feb '07 06:41
    Originally posted by cmsMaster
    Not always.

    Game 2233158
    but dont you wait for the mistake before you attack? you dont just go and try to force a mistake cuz it doesnt work
  4. 03 Feb '07 06:43
    Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
    but dont you wait for the mistake before you attack? you dont just go and try to force a mistake cuz it doesnt work
    No, I always try to take the initiative, whether the opponent makes mistakes or not. The game I showed is an example where I didn't have the initiative, defended, and basically waited for him to make an error that I could take advantage of - but it never came, neither of us blundered.
  5. 03 Feb '07 06:46
    Originally posted by cmsMaster
    No, I always try to take the initiative, whether the opponent makes mistakes or not. The game I showed is an example where I didn't have the initiative, defended, and basically waited for him to make an error that I could take advantage of - but it never came, neither of us blundered.
    i am a slower player, i dont take the initiative by force
  6. 03 Feb '07 06:47
    Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
    i am a slower player, i dont take the initiative by force
    Look under my login.
  7. 03 Feb '07 06:47
    Originally posted by cmsMaster
    Look under my login.
    i see, i play chess like i do life; just wait lol
  8. 03 Feb '07 06:55
    Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
    would you agree that to win, you rely on the opponents mistakes? that if you just wait, and maintain your pieces, that without making crazy calculations and complicated attacks that you can out-maneuver and outplay our opponent until he messes up so that you win?
    Karpov's defensive style is a lot like this I think. He pretty much lays low and pounces on any weaknesses he spots in his opponent's game. Not a lot of people are fans of this style, but it worked for him for at least a decade.
  9. 03 Feb '07 07:03
    Originally posted by UndeadNightOrc
    Karpov's defensive style is a lot like this I think. He pretty much lays low and pounces on any weaknesses he spots in his opponent's game. Not a lot of people are fans of this style, but it worked for him for at least a decade.
    i like it though, its not hectic and fast pace, which means less mistakes
  10. 03 Feb '07 19:16
    [Event "uChess rated"]
    [Site "www.uchess.com"]
    [Date "2007.2.3"]
    [Round "?"]
    [White "EDIT"]
    [Black "EcstremeVenom"]
    [Result "0-1"]

    1. d2-d4 c7-c5 2. d4-d5 e7-e6 3. c2-c4 d7-d6 4. e2-e4 Ng8-f6 5. Bf1-d3 g7-g6 6. Bc1-g5 Bf8-g7 7. Bg5xf6 Bg7xf6 8. Qd1-d2 Bf6-g5 9. Qd2-c2 O-O 10. Ng1-e2 Rf8-e8 11. O-O Nb8-d7 12. a2-a3 Nd7-e5 13. f2-f4 Ne5xd3 14. Qc2xd3 Bg5-f6 15. Ra1-a2 Qd8-b6 16. b2-b3 Qb6-c7 17. Nb1-c3 a7-a6 18. b3-b4 Bc8-d7 19. b4xc5 Qc7xc5 20. Kg1-h1 Bf6-g7 21. Ra2-d2 e6xd5 22. Nc3xd5 Kg8-f8 23. f4-f5 Bg7-e5 24. f5xg6 h7xg6 25. Nd5-f6 Re8-d8 26. Nf6-g4 Bd7xg4 27. h2-h3 Kf8-g7 28. Ne2-f4 Rd8-h8 29. Qd3-g3 Bg4-e6 30. Nf4xe6 f7xe6 31. Qg3-g4 Ra8-e8 32. Rd2-f2 Re8-e7 33. h3-h4 Be5-d4 34. Rf2-f3 Bd4-e5 35. Rf3-h3 Qc5xc4 36. Rf1-g1 Re7-f7 37. g2-g3 Rf7-f1 38. h4-h5 Rf1xg1 39. Kh1xg1 Be5-d4 40. Kg1-g2 Qc4-c2 41. Kg2-f3 Rh8-f8 42. Qg4-f4 Qc2-f2 43. Kf3-g4 Qf2-e2 44. Kg4-g5 Rf8xf4 45. g3xf4 Qe2-g2 46. Kg5-h4 Bd4-f6 0-1


    i missed a checkmate late in the game because i was running out of time and rushing, and the game is probably not perfect but i just waited for the opponent to make mistakes. what do you think?
  11. 03 Feb '07 19:22
    Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
    would you agree that to win, you rely on the opponents mistakes? that if you just wait, and maintain your pieces, that without making crazy calculations and complicated attacks that you can out-maneuver and outplay our opponent until he messes up so that you win?
    against lot weaker players, yes.
  12. 03 Feb '07 19:23 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Jusuh
    against lot weaker players, yes.
    Sounds about right...but it's risky actually, what if that player does the same thing? Or what if they don't make a mistake - you'll find yourself in an unpleasant position against a low rated player.
  13. Standard member Korch
    Chess Warrior
    03 Feb '07 19:24
    Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
    would you agree that to win, you rely on the opponents mistakes? that if you just wait, and maintain your pieces, that without making crazy calculations and complicated attacks that you can out-maneuver and outplay our opponent until he messes up so that you win?
    I`m trying to give mistaking chances for opponents (and avoiding making mistakes myself).
  14. 03 Feb '07 19:32
    Originally posted by cmsMaster
    Sounds about right...but it's risky actually, what if that player does the same thing? Or what if they don't make a mistake - you'll find yourself in an unpleasant position against a low rated player.
    nobody is perfect; with that said i can make a mistake also lol so i try to let them make the first mistake
  15. Standard member wormwood
    If Theres Hell Below
    03 Feb '07 19:36
    I always try to force things, complicate, push, strangle. often even when I'm winning and should just simplify, but I'm working on that.