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I accepted the draw offer, but should I really ...

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I accepetd the draw offer in this game. In fact I offered my opponent a draw, he said lets wait for 2-3 moves and then if no one makes a blunder, we'll agree to a draw.

Materialwise, I have a stronger position but then postion wise, he was stronger. What do you'll think?
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Originally posted by yashsr
I accepetd the draw offer in this game. In fact I offered my opponent a draw, he said lets wait for 2-3 moves and then if no one makes a blunder, we'll agree to a draw.

Materialwise, I have a stronger position but then postion wise, he was stronger. What do you'll think?
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In the end position, I don't even see how white can draw


the Black King could mop up those 2 pawns and then you swing it round to attack white pawn pase on the other side of the board.

The white will be helpless because moving the bishop will constantly put him in zuzgwang

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I think it's a draw if none of you makes a bad move.

Even if black trades the bishop for the a-pawn 8just to force the draw) it's nothing more than a draw. Black gets the opposition and thats all there is to it.

IMHO, I could be wrong of course...

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The main problem for me was that all white pawns were really advanced, one bad move and I could have ended up losing as he could have queened one those pawns.

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[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "8/4k1p1/P1p2p1p/5P1P/1P2K1P1/8/8/6b1 b - - 0 1"]

1. ... Kd6 2. Kd3 Kd5 3. Kc3 Ba7 4. Kb3 c5 5. bxc5 Kxc5 6. Kc3 Kd5 7. Kb4 Ke4
8. Kb5 Kf4 9. Kc6 Kxg4 10. Kb7 Bg1


I quickly copied the Fen into babas and played against crafty as black.


If you can think of a better defence for white please tell me, i'll pop it in as a variation and kick its arse.

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Originally posted by yashsr
The main problem for me was that all white pawns were really advanced, one bad move and I could have ended up losing as he could have queened one those pawns.
When Face with positions like this think....

"key squares" ...

IF (big if) white can get he king to f7 then he may actually end up wining.

but in order to get to f7 the needs to get to e6 first.

so, those are the key squares, if black can prevent the king reaching them, while at the same time mop up pawns, he will win.

EDIT:- HAHA!! the win is even easier than that:-

Kf7 Be3 Kxg7 Bg5 and White can't make any progress.

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Come on, guys, this is an easy win for black. For instance:

1. ... Kd6 2.Kd3 (if the king goes to the other side, then Kd5, Kd4 and grabs the two pawns; white cannot even try to infiltrate because of the black c- and f-pawns) Kd5 3.Kc3 (needs to try and protect the pawn) Ke4 4.Kc4 Kf4 5.b5 (the only try to do something active) cxb5+ 6.Kxb5 Kxg4 ; black sacrifices the bishop for the a-pawn and eats the kingside pawns long before the whiteking is back

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Originally posted by Shinidoki
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "8/4k1p1/P1p2p1p/5P1P/1P2K1P1/8/8/6b1 b - - 0 1"]

1. ... Kd6 2. Kd3 Kd5 3. Kc3 Ba7 4. Kb3 c5 5. bxc5 Kxc5 6. Kc3 Kd5 7. Kb4 Ke4
8. Kb5 Kf4 9. Kc6 Kxg4 10. Kb7 Bg1


I quickly copied the Fen into babas and played against crafty as black.


If you can think of a better defence for white please tell me, i'll pop it in as a variation and kick its arse.
I don't really think that white can win this game

1...Kd6
2.Kd3 Ke5
3.Kc4 Kf4

Black can easily defend the pawns with just his bishop and pawn and can just pick up the pawns on the other side at his own leasure.

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I think it's a clear win for black..!

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This game is lost for white. He can do nothing whilst black gobbles up his pawns then queens his own.

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Yes, black has a won position, even if you remove the c6 pawn. White can't advance his pawns without losing them to the bishop and has to give ground as white can drop tempi by moving the bishop back and forth along the a7-g1 diagonal.

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Thanks for all your feedback, I did a wrong thing by accepting the draw offer then!!!!!!!!! 🙁

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it was an easy win for black

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Originally posted by yashsr
Thanks for all your feedback, I did a wrong thing by accepting the draw offer then!!!!!!!!! 🙁
In a word "yes"

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