Hmm, I think he's innocent (maybe not when he played here). I've watched him play live chess on chess.com and I am currently playing 2 games with him. In live chess, his bullet (1 minute games) rating hit almost 1900, which is really good. I play at that level in bullet and OTB is 1600-1700 and he beat me. His blitz is also pretty decent, though not expert-level.
In our two games, I don't believe he has been using engines. As white I actually believe I have chances to win, while as black, he has played a solid game POSITIONALLY. Most engine users I have gone against are very tactical in play.
So if sens used engines here, he no longer does, and is a pretty good player.
Originally posted by Squelchbelchlast post over a year ago...
ih8sens is rated 2124 over at chess.com at the moment.
He's playing IM John Bartholomew (2411) in one game & appears to be doing very well.
[pgn][Event "Online Chess"] [Site "Chess.com"] [Date "2009.04.08"] [Round "1"] [White "Fins0905"] [Black "ih8sens"] [Result "*"] [WhiteElo "2411"] [BlackElo "2124"] [TimeControl "1 in 3 days"] 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 ...[text shortened]... 22.bxc4 bxc4 23.h3 cxd3 24.Qxd3 Nxe4 25.Re1 Qd5 26.Qxa6 Ra8 27.Qd3 *[/pgn]
what drove you to go find this old thread?
a lot of guys here that are relatively new, including myself, weren't even around when this guy was banned... so why the bring-back?
Originally posted by Big Orange CountryTry reading the post 5 posts down from the one you're slating.
last post over a year ago...
what drove you to go find this old thread?
a lot of guys here that are relatively new, including myself, weren't even around when this guy was banned... so why the bring-back?
Originally posted by Big Orange CountryWell I vaguely knew he was rated about 1800-1900 on chess.com, then he suddenly seemed to rise to 2100+ & seems to have an advantageous position against a national US Master.
yes I read it...
but i'm curious as to what suddenly brought it to your attention?
surely you haven't been keeping track of this player's progress continuously since he was banned?
As I said in the post that you read, I thought it might be interesting to see what happened to engine users on this site when they play elsewhere. If you disagree then fair enough.
And no - I haven't been stalking him for the last year.
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Originally posted by Big Orange CountryHe may be suggesting that he didn't cheat. I never thought he was, I played him blitz several times and he didn't fold like a mid 1600 normally does he played more like an 1800 blitzer.. And this was back when I played serious blitz (2062 high on chesshere.com playing 5 min or 3 min) my blitz has deteriorated since then.
yes I read it...
but i'm curious as to what suddenly brought it to your attention?
surely you haven't been keeping track of this player's progress continuously since he was banned?
Edit: although even if he was good enough to be 1800-1900 he still may have cheated.
Originally posted by tomtom232is it possible that enough evidence can be presented that he was not a cheat such that his ban can be lifted? I daresay that might be what you guys are getting at, right? would the administration ever consider such a review?
He may be suggesting that he didn't cheat. I never thought he was, I played him blitz several times and he didn't fold like a mid 1600 normally does he played more like an 1800 blitzer.. And this was back when I played serious blitz (2062 high on chesshere.com playing 5 min or 3 min) my blitz has deteriorated since then.
Edit: although even if he was good enough to be 1800-1900 he still may have cheated.
Originally posted by Big Orange CountryI doubt they would lift the ban but in the internet chess world people don't have much respect for cheats. If his name could be wiped clean(assuming he didn't cheat and we could prove it) then it would be worth tackling... But, if he was genuine there is likely not enough to prove he wasn't.
is it possible that enough evidence can be presented that he was not a cheat such that his ban can be lifted? I daresay that might be what you guys are getting at, right? would the administration ever consider such a review?
Innocent until proven guilty doesn't work either since he was "proven" guilty already. Its much harder to prove somebody WASN'T doing something than it is to prove that they were anyway.
So, to end my babbling and answer your question, I would say no it isn't possible.
Originally posted by Big Orange Countryhe cheated here, plain and simple, there isn't a shadow of a doubt about it. if memory serves, he even admitted it later.
is it possible that enough evidence can be presented that he was not a cheat such that his ban can be lifted? I daresay that might be what you guys are getting at, right? would the administration ever consider such a review?
Originally posted by wormwoodHe actually said he had done lots of analysis on the traxler and that many of his games followed that analysis. A good memory isn't cheating. I'm not saying he didn't but I never trust game moderation teams especially since I was banned from gameknot for engine use after playing just five games.
he cheated here, plain and simple, there isn't a shadow of a doubt about it. if memory serves, he even admitted it later.
Originally posted by tomtom232He indeed did analysis on the traxler with the aid of a chess engine. Nothing wrong there. But if I remember correctly, he put these analysis lines into a personal database and used this during his games. And that is not allowed.
He actually said he had done lots of analysis on the traxler and that many of his games followed that analysis. A good memory isn't cheating. I'm not saying he didn't but I never trust game moderation teams especially since I was banned from gameknot for engine use after playing just five games.
But to be honest, I don't recall if this was suggested by other members to explain what happened, or that he admitted it himself.
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Originally posted by tomtom2325 games? hah, that's pretty ridiculous. but GK banning seems to have always been based on flimsy evidence at best, so it doesn't really surprise me. it does surprise me though that they actually banned anyone for engine use to begin with. are you sure it wasn't for something else?
He actually said he had done lots of analysis on the traxler and that many of his games followed that analysis. A good memory isn't cheating. I'm not saying he didn't but I never trust game moderation teams especially since I was banned from gameknot for engine use after playing just five games.
anyway, ih8sens couldn't have possibly engine analyzed traxler in advance to a degree that would make difference to engine detection. not if he had his engine spitting out traxler games day and night until the cows came home. and I really doubt he did.
true though that if such a herculean computational effort was feasible, it would've gotten him banned. but it isn't, which is quickly obvious comparing it to the time & storage requirements of a 7 piece endgame tablebase. traxler has way more pieces left in any crucial position, and the combinatorial explosion blows the roof right of that claim. it just isn't possible.
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Originally posted by adjeare you sure about this?
But if I remember correctly, he put these analysis lines into a personal database and used this during his games. And that is not allowed.
So, when I play my pet openings in blitz and analyze them, finding out (almost always) I've gone wrong in or right after the opening, and come up with better lines post mortem, I'm supposed to NOT use that stuff in CC games? my logic tells me this can't be right.
but if this is true, I believe then the rules need a revision.
and BTW, I don't have the slightest doubt that analyzing an opening and storing up all the lines will never, ever be enough to make your rating jump far in CC. maybe 15-20 elos if you are serious -I mean, like on a professional level-, but not any more.
Originally posted by philidor positionpre-game engine analysis, perfectly legal. and easily told apart from in game engine analysis. practically all modern opening theory is computer checked, and it doesn't make a meaningful difference.
are you sure about this?
So, when I play my pet openings in blitz and analyze them, finding out (almost always) I've gone wrong in or right after the opening, and come up with better lines post mortem, I'm supposed to NOT use that stuff in CC games? my logic tells me this can't be right.
but if this is true, I believe then the rules need a ...[text shortened]... aybe 15-20 elos if you are serious -I mean, like on a professional level-, but not any more.