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Is it ethical to sit on a mate in one

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Originally posted by Gammastyle
Being an non-subscriber, I can only get 6 games in at a time and this is preventing me from starting a new game. Is there a way to declare mate or force resignation on these types of games or do I have to bite the bullet and wait it out.
You can resign even when it is not your move, I think.
just click on "Resign"

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Originally posted by Gammastyle
[b]I am getting pretty frustrated by players who will move like lightning when the game is even or they are slightly behind, but then stop moving when I find a mate in 3 or such
In a situation like this I have messaged the opponent giving the forced win, which in one case was a quite long sequence leading to a pawn promotion and then an easy K+Q v K mate, Perhaps I have been lucky but each time I have done this my opponents have resigned forthwith.

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Originally posted by MCA
it is possible that he is unaware of the impending doom and is simply trying to find a decent move.

i dont deliberatly leave games when i know they are lost (ill just resign) but if i am behind i do tend take more time over the move, in the hope of finding a way back into the game. although in my case that usually means instead of playing at 8:00 ill play at ...[text shortened]... ve 24 hours to play or get timed out - it at least ensures they will play at least one each day.
hmm yes he has a wide range of legal moves (1 move) and he is having difficulty choosing. The guy is just being an ASS. Post a thread with his name and the offense i.e. how long it takes him to make his last move, and a link to the game.
I recommend posting both in the "chess" and "meet opponents" forums. when offenders realize that such behavior is not condoned and that they have trouble finding a game they will stop doing it.
Of course the downside is the people who will inevitably abuse the thread, but repeat offenders will be easy to spot.

EDIT: i recently had a game where i was about to win and my opponent suddenly slowed down from a few moves a day to nothing for a few days. I got all upset and was about to start posting similar things, but decided to message him first. It turned out he hadn't seen my win and had just been thinking about his next move (which he made shortly after my message). so be very careful accusing somebody.

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Originally posted by Gammastyle
Game 2201213
It isn´t ethical talk about a game in progress.

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Originally posted by aginis
hmm yes he has a wide range of legal moves (1 move) and he is having difficulty choosing. The guy is just being an ASS. Post a thread with his name and the offense i.e. how long it takes him to make his last move, and a link to the game.
I recommend posting both in the "chess" and "meet opponents" forums. when offenders realize that such behavior is not con ...[text shortened]... s next move (which he made shortly after my message). so be very careful accusing somebody.
Thats a good point, and sometimes, people just have stuff come up in their lives. Personally my moves per day can be very sporadic. I go from 100 one day, to 5 the next. Just because they don't move doesn't mean they are trying to mess with you, as you pointed out. And you can be "about to win" for many moves and many days, increasing the chance that people will seem to stop moving when you think the game is starting to go downhill.

Moving slowly after moving quickly is not an offense. This is a correspondance site, so any of you whining about slow movers should just deal with it.

And personally, if I have a forced win, I would rather have my opponent play it out to checkmate rather than resign as soon as they see it. If someone points one out to me, I won't resign, but if it really is a forcing continuation, I will agree to make all the moves to end the game in mate within a few minutes if we are both online at once.

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Originally posted by RahimK
I only play 1/7 games for that reason. That way if my opponent is a jerk after a couple of weeks I can time them out instead of waiting months.

As you move up the rating ladders and play higher rated opponents less and less people will do suck a thing. Thankfully I have never been in a situation like that in CC. However, OTB I have been. But with OTB the game is over within several hours and not months.
How can you possibly be a jerk for moving "too slow" in OTB. Tons of people take longer when it gets complicated or they get into a rough spot. And ideally, both players ought to be using almost all of the time on the clock. If he goes over, you win, if he is just under, he is playing well. I understand how it can be annoying in CC, but OTB getting mad over time just seems silly.

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Originally posted by Gammastyle
I am getting pretty frustrated by players who will move like lightning when the game is even or they are slightly behind, but then stop moving when I find a mate in 3 or such. I see these guys moving their other games, but seem to "forget" about ours. Being an non-subscriber, I can only get 6 games in at a time and this is preventing me from starting a ...[text shortened]... Since CC games take so long I thought maybe there was a rule so something. Game 2201213
This game still is in progress???? 😲

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Originally posted by Gammastyle
I am getting pretty frustrated by players who will move like lightning when the game is even or they are slightly behind, but then stop moving when I find a mate in 3 or such. I see these guys moving their other games, but seem to "forget" about ours. Being an non-subscriber, I can only get 6 games in at a time and this is preventing me from starting a ...[text shortened]... Since CC games take so long I thought maybe there was a rule so something. Game 2201213
He has taken less time than you!

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Originally posted by lausey
This game still is in progress???? 😲
Good Point!

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Originally posted by Gammastyle
I can't subscribe because if I did, I would never work and get fired. I only get stuff done between moves and there is a lull in the forums.
All chess and no work makes gammastyle a poor boy.

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Originally posted by Red Night
Good Point!
I'm not sure what this has to do with anything. I am not asking for move advice. This is an issue with people not moving when it is a clear loss just to prolong the game. I didn't think it would be an issue that the game was still going on. I could understand if I was asking what move I should make, but I am not. The point about me taking longer is also moot because I didn't move in ANY of my games during that time. I was on vacation and did not have access to the games. This guy is moving in all his other games at the same pace he was moving in our before he realized the mate in one. I do not have a problem with taking your time if you are doing it with ALL your games. I just think that is bad sportsmanship on his part. Anyone disagree?

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Originally posted by Gammastyle
I'm not sure what this has to do with anything. I am not asking for move advice. This is an issue with people not moving when it is a clear loss just to prolong the game. I didn't think it would be an issue that the game was still going on. I could understand if I was asking what move I should make, but I am not. The point about me taking longer is a ...[text shortened]... t with ALL your games. I just think that is bad sportsmanship on his part. Anyone disagree?
Yes, I would have to agree, hence my comment. It is obvious this person isn't on vacation and delibrately prolonging the game. Without commenting on the game, would you say this person really is spending a lot of time thinking about his move? (this is a rhetorical question)

If you happen to go on another vacation, he would probably time you out. 😛

Unfortunately this is within the rules and is kind of thing you would just have to deal with from time to time.

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Posting analysis sometimes works....depending on the temperment of the player.

Offering a draw, with a little analysis (proving it is perpetual) will often promt them to accept the draw (unless your lines are Wrong!!)

but on saying that, I have played a game with ended in a simple B+B+K vs. K endgame - after 10 moves I sent a message showing the winning line (and the important side variations) yet, despite sending analysis he played on till i had mate in 2 - then resigned.



at the end of the day, I just think somepeople like to be annoying, and/or we have some just plain childish members.

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Originally posted by Amaurote
Get two more queens and bat him around for 48 moves. Then mate him.
yes that would be my method too, but maybe i would try for four knights instead of queens.

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Originally posted by tonytiger41
yes that would be my method too, but maybe i would try for four knights instead of queens.
Some peopel really odn't know they should resign. Our club hosted an unrated tournament the other weekend and tons of elementary, middle and junior high aged kids showed up (the high schoolers are regulars already). Many of them play on tenacioucly hoping for the stalemate. Considering the level that most of them play at, I cannot in good conscience tell them not to do so as it may work far more often than it should.

That said a tournament or serious site is something altogether different.