Topalov may stop his participation in the World Championship Match for the World Chess Title against Kramnik said Silvio Danailov - V. Topalov's manager in a letter to the World Chess Federation.
I'll give you briefly the reasons of that letter:
Letter to the World Chess Federation comitee from - Silvio Danailov (V. Topalov's manager)
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1. After every move Kramnik goes right away to the resting room and from there directly to the bathroom. As an average every game Kramnik has visited the resting room about 25 times and the bathroom at least 50 times. The bathroom is the only place where there is no video monitoring.
2. For comparison Topalov has visited the resting room 8 times and the bathroom 4 times as an average.
Here is some statiscs:
15.54 - Kramnik plays move # 15
15.55 - Goes in the bathroom
15.56 - Comes out of the bathroom
15.57 - Goes in the bathroom again
15.59 - Comes out of the bathroom
16.03 - Goes in the bathroom
16.04 - Comes out of the bathroom
16.07 - Comes out to make his # 16 move
This happens during all the games.
The logical question comes. How many times during a game a chess player needs to visit the bathroom (toilet room) and through what interval of time? The logical answer is between 5-10 times, but in no way 50 times as the static’s shows with Kramnik during all the games.
The question I have is what should the World Chess Federation do to insure fair chess competition at least for the World Chess Title?
Los Angeles
Originally posted by SupermanSuperman, if you are as consistently unimaginative in chess games as you have been in this thread, you'll never reach the 1700 rating barrier you dream of crossing here on this site. There are a million and one conceivable reasons for Kramnik coming in and out of the toilet when it's not his move.
Yes you are rigth on this, but I think top has a point:
15.54 – Kramnik plays move 15
15.55 – Goes into the bathroom
15.56 – Goes out of the bathroom
15.57 – Goes into the bathroom
15.59 – Goes out of the bathroom
16.03 – Goes into the bathroom
16.04 – Goes out the bathroom
16.07 – Comes out for mov ...[text shortened]... gets it, or he could be going in and out to avoid suspicion, which he hasn't. I am just saying.
The most obvious is: he paces up and down, and that's at the end of his route. That would explain the minute in minute out stuff.
Or he likes to stretch his muscles in private.
Or the temperature is cooler there, and he likes that.
Or there's no-one else there in that part of the building so he prefers it.
Or, or, or.
Or: he's innocent until proven guilty, Topalov is a disgrace, and you, frankly, have not heard they've taken gullible out of the dictionary.
About Kramnik's health condition. That can be varified by urine tests or blood tests from independent doctors.
Going to the bathroom 50 times within 7 hours sounds really strange. I have not heard of anything like this before.
How can you be able to think "chess" when you have such an urgent need to go to the bathroom every few minutes?
And this is during all the games.
Come on guys let's be realistic.
Originally posted by Los AngelesWho are you? Er.... Or should that be where?
About Kramnik's health condition. That can be varified by urine tests or blood tests from independent doctors.
Going to the bathroom 50 times within 7 hours sounds really strange. I have not heard of anything like this before.
How can you be able to think "chess" when you have such an urgent need to go to the bathroom every few minutes?
And this is during all the games.
Come on guys let's be realistic.
Originally posted by Los AngelesSure. Because as Kramnik is guilty, Topalov - rather than alerting security secretly and getting him monitored and then disqualified - has instead set himself up to leave the World Championship.
How can you be able to think "chess" when you have such an urgent need to go to the bathroom every few minutes?
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Come on guys let's be realistic.
That's not realistically the act of a total coward at all now, is it?
Originally posted by Los AngelesNo. It just raises a bit of a red flag when someone with zero moves (ever), zero games in progress, etc. jumps straight into a debate like this. Why join a chess site if you're not going to play? Just wondering....
I am in Los Angeles if that is the answer you were looking for.
What difference that made to you if I can ask?
Does right and wrong depends on your location, country etc.?
Or the Truth is Truth only if it fits "oneself"?
Originally posted by TommyCWhich security are you talking about MI-6, CIA or any other?
Sure. Because as Kramnik is guilty, Topalov - rather than alerting security secretly and getting him monitored and then disqualified - has instead set himself up to leave the World Championship.
That's not realistically the act of a total coward at all now, is it?
Who provides the security for the tournament?
Did FIDE provide provisions for secret monitoring during the match?
Originally posted by leisurelyslothThank you leisurelysloth, you made me laugh. 🙂
No. It just raises a bit of a red flag when someone with zero moves (ever), zero games in progress, etc. jumps straight into a debate like this. Why join a chess site if you're not going to play? Just wondering....
Originally posted by TommyCExcuse me TommyC,
You're an idiot. Please shut up.
But if you are fair, smart and honest man can you please tell me what is the "idiotic" thing that I did.
Isn't this a forum where people should discuss fairly their views without using profanity and insulting others?
Maybe Topalov has a "Tal like" stare and that bothers Kramnik so he goes to the bathroom where it's nice and quiet and he can be alone to analyse in his head. The cheating accusation is absurd, Topalov should be happy Kramnik spends his time at the bathroom because that's what causes Kramnik's time troubles, and time trouble was why Topalov got a draw in game 3.
Originally posted by omulcusobolaniTopalov is said to be very nice and fair player from top GM's.
Maybe Topalov has a "Tal like" stare and that bothers Kramnik so he goes to the bathroom where it's nice and quiet and he can be alone to analyse in his head. The cheating accusation is absurd, Topalov should be happy Kramnik spends his time at the bathroom because that's what causes Kramnik's time troubles, and time trouble was why Topalov got a draw in game 3.
None has ever mentioned about the "stare" you are bringing.
May be some people want their ways no matter if that is fair or unjust.
A true man is a man of the Truth.
If you lie and cheat where is your honor where is your dignity as a man?
Originally posted by TommyCI understand that there are million reasons or explinations to why a human being has to go to the bathroom 50 times in 7 hours, but the fact tha it has an explination does not eliminate its being weird, and suspicious.
Superman, if you are as consistently unimaginative in chess games as you have been in this thread, you'll never reach the 1700 rating barrier you dream of crossing here on this site. There are a million and one conceivable reasons for Kramnik coming in and out of the toilet when it's not his move.
The most obvious is: he paces up and down, and that's at th a disgrace, and you, frankly, have not heard they've taken gullible out of the dictionary.
If there is an explination let him give it, he could just say " I like doing it" and we have to belive him!
I say: lets see what happens after the security measures are applied(if they are), and check the results, it is my oppinion and I can't think just like you do, and there is no need to take this personal bexause this is only a thread, I understand that someone may be a fan of someone but I let you have your oppinion.