Originally posted by tamuziIn Game 5673608 no h3? is that Adramforall Creeping Death Refused?
Game 5673601
Game 5673608
Adram and I are playing one a side, no comments since its an ongoing game. But in case anyone wanted to watch it 😛
But would any 1800+ would lke to play a game showing us a full refutation we would be appreciative.
The attack just seems really spikey.
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Originally posted by patrickrutgerslol
In Game 5673608 no h3? is that Adramforall Creeping Death Refused?
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i just played a 5 min blitz game using this opening and won on time...i had over 2 mins left 😵
i tried to copy the game to send it here but couldn't really figure out how and then somehow went out of the game.
anyway the opponent wasn't that good, played 3 here lost them all but i'll think i'll be trying that again...probably never in a cc game though....not rated or with any long time controls anyway.
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i just send out a set piece open invite
Game 5739467 might interest you....i know i cheated and gave myself 2 extra moves 😀
Originally posted by patrickrutgersNo, I just ballsed up 😳
In Game 5673608 no h3? is that Adramforall Creeping Death Refused?
At adramforall's invitation, we're playing another creeping death opening - Game 5724044. I'll be interested to see how my response compares with tamuzi's. I don' think there's any easy, early refutation, though maybe patrickrutgers is right and tamuzi found it.
I suspect that much of the impact comes from the shock value of seeing all those pawns lining up like something out of Braveheart, so knowing what one's getting into may make the game easier. But after those 8 white pawns are out there I'd rather be black than white. I think.
I may live to regret that last assertion ðŸ˜
I think one of the opening's advantages is its surprise value.
By letting black know that you are going to set it up ahead of time, you allow black to adjust moves to the setup before it occurs !!!
It's kind of like the study with the subject being watched. hehe
Once the subject knows it's being watched it alters everything.
1.a3 and 2.h3 may be more coy.
1.d3 and 2.g3 also make black suspect nothing. hehe
I think that if black knows white is going to set it up, he should perhaps try a central push.
Something like e5,d5,f5, and Nf6 with e4 in mind might work.
Also, something like a four pawns attack could bear fruit.
I doubt there is an outright refutation.
It's kind of like 1.f3 and 2.Kf2 or 1. ... f6 and 2. ... Kf7.
They look really strange, but there isn't necessarily a refutation.
First test run
1 minute game ... Not bad position ... I would have won if my mouse hadn't frozen up on me. 🙂
I am going to switch to the (unrated) blitz room here until I work out the kinks of this system for white. 🙂
I'll use a little slower control like 3 mins or 5 mins next too. 🙂
Test Run # 2
3 Minute Game
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- move 1 could not be played: Invalid PGN : Error converting move e2
[Site "www.redhotpawn.com"]
[Date "2008.12.8"]
[Round "?"]
[White "paulbuchmanfromfics"]
[Black "Funksoulbrother"]
[Result "1-0"]
1. e2-e3 b7-b6 2. d2-d3 Bc8-b7 3. f2-f3 a7-a6 4. c2-c3 d7-d6 5. g2-g3 e7-e6 6. h2-h3 Nb8-d7 7. b2-b3 f7-f6 8. a2-a3 Qd8-e7 9. b3-b4 O-O-O 10. a3-a4 g7-g5 11. c3-c4 h7-h5 12. a4-a5 Bf8-h6 13. a5xb6 Nd7xb6 14. Bc1-b2 h5-h4 15. g3-g4 e6-e5 16. Rh1-h2 Qe7-d7 17. e3-e4 Ng8-e7 18. Bb2-c3 Ne7-g6 19. Rh2-a2 Ng6-f4 20. Ng1-e2 Nf4xh3 21. Bf1xh3 f6-f5 22. g4xf5 Rh8-g8 23. Ne2-g1 g5-g4 24. f3xg4 Bh6-f4 25. Qd1-f3 d6-d5 26. c4xd5 Nb6xd5 27. e4xd5 Bb7xd5 28. Qf3-e2 Bd5xa2 29. Ra1xa2 Rd8-f8 30. Ra2xa6 Kc8-d8 31. f5-f6 Rf8-f7 32. g4-g5 1-0
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- move 1 could not be played: Invalid PGN : Error converting move e2
[Site "www.redhotpawn.com"]
[Date "2008.12.8"]
[Round "?"]
[White "paulbuchmanfromfics"]
[Black "samthegrate"]
[Result "1-0"]
1. e2-e3 d7-d5 2. d2-d3 e7-e5 3. c2-c3 Ng8-f6 4. f2-f3 c7-c5 5. g2-g3 Nb8-c6 6. h2-h3 Bf8-d6 7. b2-b3 b7-b5 8. a2-a3 a7-a6 9. Ra1-a2 Bc8-e6 10. Ke1-f2 O-O 11. Bf1-g2 d5-d4 12. c3xd4 c5xd4 13. e3-e4 Be6xb3 14. Qd1xb3 Nc6-a5 15. Qb3-d1 Ra8-c8 16. Ng1-e2 Nf6-h5 17. Bc1-d2 f7-f5 18. e4xf5 Rf8xf5 19. g3-g4 Qd8-h4 20. Kf2-g1 Rf5xf3 21. Bd2-e1 1-0