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Is this drawn?

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This position looks drawn to me, but I just wanted to be sure -- black can't force a win here, can he (black to move). The idea in playing this is to not move my pawns off of the light colored squares, correct?

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I don`t know if black can win or not but he certainly could try to.
One plan for black is to capture whites h pawn via simply moving the king towards it and capturing it then queening the h pawn.

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Since I'm a patzer with a terrible end game, the best I could do was apply some silicon elbow grease. (Stockfish 1.6, which is very good in the endgame, despite not using tablebases of any kind).

It couldn't find a win for Black at all.

I think the problem with the black king trying to pick off the h-pawn is that as soon as it abandons the d-pawn, White gobbles it up, and White holds the draw. (If Black avoids trading bishops after the d-pawn falls, White can capture the black h-pawn with a bishop sac and still hold the draw. And if Black trades bishops after the d-pawn capture, then the game turns into a race to promote pawns. Although Black queens first, it's a KQP vs KQ game (White has the extra pawn), and White can hold the draw.

But you have to remember, with people playing, anything can happen. 🙂

Yeah, in general, Black should keep his pawns on the light squares, although if the game goes 1...Bc5 2.Bg3, then Black can play 2...a5 or 2...b6 and still draw.

Ragwort
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Originally posted by National Master Dale
I don`t know if black can win or not but he certainly could try to.
One plan for black is to capture whites h pawn via simply moving the king towards it and capturing it then queening the h pawn.
I think white can hold a draw if for example

1...Ke5 2.Be1 Kf5 3.Bd2 Kg4 4.Bxh6 Kxh5 5.Bg7 Kg6 6.Bxd4 and now Bb8 is forced but I think black can keep the white king out of b6 for the draw.

PS. Sorry not sure how to work the PGN reader from a FEN.

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Originally posted by Ragwort
I think white can hold a draw if for example

1...Ke5 2.Be1 Kf5 3.Bd2 Kg4 4.Bxh6 Kxh5 5.Bg7 Kg6 6.Bxd4 and now Bb8 is forced but I think black can keep the white king out of b6 for the draw.

PS. Sorry not sure how to work the PGN reader from a FEN.
Just add the FEN tag into the PGN.

White has to move first in the PGN's so ignore the first move:

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I wouldn`t give up trying to win with black yet.
The king capturing the h pawn I mean that as a plan not a move order.
1...Bc5 might be the move order needed in order to protect the black h pawn if white attacks it with his bishop.
If like mad rooks post white responds with Bg3 perhaps black can still go and take away the h pawn now via ...Ke6

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