14 May 07
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Hi, I'm looking for some help as black against the King's Gambit. I've used the same line (2. Nc6) for a long time but I lose way to much with it so I'm looking for an improvement. If anyone could give me a line or two and play a couple set piece games explaining why certain moves are good/bad, I'd really appreciate it. Send me a PM if you're willing to help so I can add you to my buddies so the games will get through. Thanks!
Edit: I know there are oodles of threads about the KG out there, but I don't feel like digging through them.
14 May 07
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Originally posted by GalaxyShieldThe Kings Gambit is so bad for black. I suggest you avoid it my playing c5, c6, e6 or even g5!
Hi, I'm looking for some help as black against the King's Gambit. I've used the same line (2. Nc6) for a long time but I lose way to much with it so I'm looking for an improvement. If anyone could give me a line or two and play a couple set piece games explaining why certain moves are good/bad, I'd really appreciate it. Send me a PM if you're willing to ...[text shortened]... are oodles of threads about the KG out there, but I don't feel like digging through them.
Although if you insist on playing e5 try.
1. e4 e5;
2. f4 d5!
After eXd black has the initiative.
14 May 07
Originally posted by GalaxyShieldThe kg is harmless if you know how to play against it. If you have time, just study the main line (1.e4 e5 2.f4 exf4 3.Nf3 g5 etc.), and you'll see black is fine after the opening. If you want just a few lines to learn I'd suggest kga with 3..d5. You should try playing the kg as white to learn the ideas behind it
Hi, I'm looking for some help as black against the King's Gambit. I've used the same line (2. Nc6) for a long time but I lose way to much with it so I'm looking for an improvement. If anyone could give me a line or two and play a couple set piece games explaining why certain moves are good/bad, I'd really appreciate it. Send me a PM if you're willing to ...[text shortened]... are oodles of threads about the KG out there, but I don't feel like digging through them.
14 May 07
Originally posted by Dragon FireYeah, but I hate the Sicilian, Caro, Pirc, and the Borg, so I don't think they're options in this case 😛.
The Kings Gambit is so bad for black. I suggest you avoid it my playing c5, c6, e6 or even g5!
Although if you insist on playing e5 try.
1. e4 e5;
2. f4 d5!
After eXd black has the initiative.
I was thinking about d5. I'll have to try it sometime.
And thanks for the link, Korch, after just skimming it over I think it'll help me out a lot. 🙂
14 May 07
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Originally posted by SquelchbelchI think Falkbeer is no good. At least i know how to play for getting endgame position with better play for white.
I always use the Falkbeer counter as black with reasonably good results.
It can easily throw white off their game, blocking their favoute 1/2 open f-file & giving black open lines & early counter-chances.
So follow my recommendations in Thread 63724 and play 2...Bc5
14 May 07
Originally posted by c guy1Accept it if you want.
I know from personal experience, I prefer to accpet the gambit, but maybe the people I play just aren't as good as the ones your having trouble with.
Here is an example of what can happen to a 2150 player as black Game 2439096 when facing the KGA.
14 May 07
Originally posted by KorchFederov & Joseph Gallagher (both KG specialists) have been beaten with The Falkbeer so I don't think it can be dismissed so easily!
I think Falkbeer is no good. At least i know how to play for getting endgame position with better play for white.
So follow my recommendations in Thread 63724 and play 2...Bc5
Karpov has used it to good effect, also.
14 May 07
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Originally posted by Dragon FireKGA should always be accepted.
Accept it if you want.
Here is an example of what can happen to a 2150 player as black Game 2439096 when facing the KGA.
Here's an example of what can happen to a 2150 player as white.
Game 2967965
14 May 07
Originally posted by SquelchbelchMaybe. Could you give me links to these games to see did white played line which i think the best?
Federov & Joseph Gallagher (both KG specialists) have been beaten with The Falkbeer so I don't think it can be dismissed so easily!
Karpov has used it to good effect, also.
14 May 07
Originally posted by English TalWell done. I guess I was lucky!
KGA should always be accepted.
Here's an example of what can happen to a 2150 player as white.
Game 2967965
14 May 07
Originally posted by KorchI use the chessbase db at chesslive.
Maybe. Could you give me links to these games to see did white played line which i think the best?
Don't know how to link the games but the details of some notable white losses to the Falkbeer (so you can refine search & find games) are as follows:
Federov v Yurtaev 29/09/1998
Gallagher v Barkhagen 1995
Macieja v Karpov 04/07/2003