meet 1.d4 gambit style

Originally posted by Fat Lady
One playable gambit for Black against 1.d4 is the Budapest -
1. d4 Nf6
2. c4 e5

After 3. dxe5 Black has 3..... Ng4 or 3.... Ne4, both leading to very different games. The Ne4 lines can be very sharp.

The Englund gambit is simply rubbish if White doesn't fall for the two cheapos.

Ne4 is harmless after the simple a3 getting rid of all Bb4 check ideas.

Originally posted by Gorgar
No,but all gambits intrest me 🙂
What is this "dutch gambit"?Never heard of it 😕

He means 1.d4 f5 2.e4 which is the Staunton gambit. Quite an intresting line.

Originally posted by Bedlam
He means 1.d4 f5 2.e4 which is the Staunton gambit. Quite an intresting line.

No, I mean the gambit that was played in this game 🙂 Game 2157871

The only trouble with the Benko is that its far from forced. After 1.d4 Nf6 white has a range of options to avoid the Benko. However as lines against 1.d4 go Benko is my key choice, blacks pieces just slide onto great squares, black gets a whole load of activity down the a+b files, black has quite a clear cut plan to follow...then throw into the bag that black often gets the better end game and the Benko is the choice of many players.

It also appeals to a wide range of players, Leko, Topalov, Adams, Fedorowicz just being a few.

Originally posted by EnigmaticCam
No, I mean the gambit that was played in this game 🙂 Game 2157871

Oh, Danish gambit.

Black should have given a pawn back with d5 then Nf6 after Bxd5.

Originally posted by Bedlam
Oh, Danish gambit.

Oh, it's called the Danish gambit. Dang, talk about screwing the name up. Hope I didn't insult any Danish, Dutch, or Scotch people.

Iv tried playing it a couple of times OTB. 1.e4 e5 2.d4 exd4 3.c3 d3 always got on my nerves just people pushing the pawn forward to avoid theory or often you would get 3..dxc3 and then they wouldnt touch the b pawn.

If black gives back the pawns in the main line then the gambit frizzles out and while white might still get a playable game I dont think its one that people who would choose the Danish gambit would enjoy.


1. e4 e5 2. d4 exd4 3. c3 dxc3 4. Bc4 cxb2 5. Bxb2 d5 6. Bxd5 Nf6 7. Bxf7+ Kxf7
8. Qxd8 Bb4+

Originally posted by Bedlam
Iv tried playing it a couple of times OTB. 1.e4 e5 2.d4 exd4 3.c3 d3 always got on my nerves just people pushing the pawn forward to avoid theory or often you would get 3..dxc3 and then they wouldnt touch the b pawn.

If black gives back the pawns in the main line then the gambit frizzles out and while white might still get a playable game I dont think i ...[text shortened]... Bxf7+ Kxf7
8. Qxd8 Bb4+


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Looks boring.

I recommend the Benko Gambit, very sound, very sharp, and so far the learning has been easy, because the pieces just slide right into place.

Very boring, I guess thats why the Danish is so rarely seen these days.

Originally posted by Bedlam
Very boring, I guess thats why the Danish is so rarely seen these days.

To me it just seems very risky. If black knows what he/she is doing than it seems white may have a tough time finding compensation for the two pawns.

In that line black gives back the two pawns the position looks very equal white certainly doesnt have an advantage.

Originally posted by Bedlam
In that line black gives back the two pawns the position looks very equal white certainly doesnt have an advantage.

Yes, sorry I wasn't referring to that specific line, and I'm certainly not a Danish Gambit expert so I probably should not have made the comment in the first place.

But, like you said, in that line black has equality. Now white will have to try to find a way to create an attack and anybody that would play the Danish Gambit would not want a position like this. (I assume..) Like I said before, it looks boring. If I play a gambit I want sharp, exciting, and tactical, this line doesn't fit the need from what I see.

EDIT: And white's behind in development, not exactly an ideal situation.

Originally posted by cmsMaster
Yes, sorry I wasn't referring to that specific line, and I'm certainly not a Danish Gambit expert so I probably should not have made the comment in the first place.

But, like you said, in that line black has equality. Now white will have to try to find a way to create an attack and anybody that would play the Danish Gambit would not want a position lik ...[text shortened]... rom what I see.

EDIT: And white's behind in development, not exactly an ideal situation.

White's not behind in development.After 9.Qd2,Bxd2 10.Nxd2(covering the e-pawn as well) white has 2 pieces out vs black 1.But it is black to move so he'll develop his 2nd piece and I guess then it's completely equal.Indeed not exactly what you want from a gambit.
It's a shame cause it's an awesome opening if it weren't for that line 😞

So what's a good response for white after 1. d4 e5?

Originally posted by EnigmaticCam
So what's a good response for white after 1. d4 e5?

I don't play 1.d4 but I'd grab that soldier 🙂
2.dxe5 no clue how it could continue though