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  1. 10 Jul '06 12:30
    Can someone direct me to a good site about a gambit to meet 1.d4,please?
    Been browsing the net for over a hour but all I found are a few sites on the benko gambit and a few very,very obscure gambits.Not that the benko is bad but I would like to check out more options and they have to be at least remotely sound
  2. Subscriber Ponderableonline
    chemist
    10 Jul '06 12:51
    maybe you could try searching for Englund gambit, if a gambit it needs to be
  3. 10 Jul '06 13:15
    I believe 1. d4 d5 2. c4 e5 3. dxe5 d4 is a just about playable gambit for black. Maybe something with or like 1. d4 d5 2. c4 c5 is too. There's also the Blumenfeld, which relies on your opponent wishing to avoid the Nimzo Indian, but being happy to face a Benoni: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 c5 4. d5 b5. The Budapest Gambit 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e5 3. dxe5 Ng4 is also possible, although there black usually regains the pawn on e5, and you seem to wish to play material down! The wild 3. ... Ne4!? in that line might be worth looking at, however. I believe there are some bonkers lines after that where black plays things like ...d6, and after exd6, goes Qf6, g5, trying to organise something against f2 and maybe b2. But maybe I misremember, it's been a while.

    I don't know of any good websites about these, however. I think the Benko is probably the only respectable gambit response to 1. d4, unless you count the Botvinnik variation in the Slav as a gambit.
  4. 10 Jul '06 13:30 / 1 edit
    One playable gambit for Black against 1.d4 is the Budapest -
    1. d4 Nf6
    2. c4 e5

    After 3. dxe5 Black has 3..... Ng4 or 3.... Ne4, both leading to very different games. The Ne4 lines can be very sharp.

    The Englund gambit is simply rubbish if White doesn't fall for the two cheapos.
  5. 10 Jul '06 13:45
    Yes it must be a gambit.I am blessed with an unhealthy disrespect for material,especially pawns.They're just cannonfodder
    Well,further searches on the inet reveal that apparently only the Benko and Budapest are considered sound gambits vs 1.d4.As confirmed here by you guys/girls.Gonna play a few Englund's too though,just for kicks
    I played the Budapest many times so I guess I'll give the benko a go now.Allthough I never did play that Fajarowicz (sp?) variant of the Budapest,will have to try that too.

    Thanks for the input so far,most appreciated
  6. 10 Jul '06 13:51
    Here's a game a friend of mine won against an IM:
    1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e5 3.dxe5 Ne4 4.a3 Qh4 5.Be3 Bc5 6.Qd3 Nxf2

    The 3.....Ne4 lines are much more fun than 3....Ng4. I used to play the latter myself, and hardly ever ended up with an interesting position.
  7. 10 Jul '06 14:32
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackmar-Diemer_Gambit
  8. 10 Jul '06 14:33
    Originally posted by Shinidoki
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackmar-Diemer_Gambit
    The original poster wanted a gambit to play as Black against 1.d4, not a gambit for White.
  9. 10 Jul '06 14:54
    Originally posted by Fat Lady
    The original poster wanted a gambit to play as Black against 1.d4, not a gambit for White.
    oh.....

    in that case i have no clue
  10. 10 Jul '06 14:57
    Originally posted by Gorgar
    Can someone direct me to a good site about a gambit to meet 1.d4,please?
    Been browsing the net for over a hour but all I found are a few sites on the benko gambit and a few very,very obscure gambits.Not that the benko is bad but I would like to check out more options and they have to be at least remotely sound
    The Benko is probably the best countergambit for black against 1.d4 in that it is positionally grounded and has been played at the top level for a long time without there being a clear-cut refutation found against it (a bit like the Marshall against the Lopez). Of the other gambits mentioned, the Albin (1.d4 d5 2.c4 e5) and the Budapest may be just about playable. Also worth mentioning is the von Hennig-Schara Gambit (1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 c5 4.cxd4 cxd4!?), which gives black some play for the pawn. However, the main problem for potential gambiteers is that so many boring d4 b*****ds prevent all this with 2.Nf3. How dare they!
  11. 10 Jul '06 14:59
    Sorry, white's 4th move in the von Hennig-Schara should be cxd5.
  12. 10 Jul '06 15:06
    Both the benko and Budapest are excellent choices. I prefer the benko, another member of the club I go to is rated 1950 USCF and plays the budapest successfully in tournaments.
  13. Standard member EnigmaticCam
    Chess n00b
    10 Jul '06 15:57
    I played PopeBambi a couple times, and both times he met my 1. d4 with an immediate e5. Not sure what kind of gambit it is, but I played 2. e4 and transposed to the dutch gambit. lol, I guess you're not looking for a gambit for white so I'm probably not helping
  14. 10 Jul '06 15:59
    Originally posted by EnigmaticCam
    I played PopeBambi a couple times, and both times he met my 1. d4 with an immediate e5. Not sure what kind of gambit it is, but I played 2. e4 and transposed to the dutch gambit. lol, I guess you're not looking for a gambit for white so I'm probably not helping
    No,but all gambits intrest me
    What is this "dutch gambit"?Never heard of it
  15. Standard member EnigmaticCam
    Chess n00b
    10 Jul '06 16:02
    Originally posted by Gorgar
    No,but all gambits intrest me
    What is this "dutch gambit"?Never heard of it
    Er, Scotch gambit. My mistake.

    It's mainly played with 1. e4 first, then after 1...e5 2. d4, play usually continues with 2...exd4 3. c3 dxc3 4. Bc4 cxb2 5. Bxb2.