Originally posted by eldragonfly.... and when they get there they will find that their careless DB use has simply got them into a lost postion.
Wrong.
Stumble some more big guy.
For those that don't have any appreciable chess skills, using a database is just a way to dance dullminded incourageous stooges through an opening into the middegame and nothing more.
I can vouch from experience having managed to get myself into a lost position on a number of occasions following a book (not a DB) or a "won" position that I had no idea how to win.
Now I always play a DB line through and study the deviations carefully to ensure I can force the line down a route favorable to me and that I understand the resultant position and how to win it.
It may be a surprise for some but this is no easy solution and it takes a lot more time and effort than not using books or DBs.
At the end of the day when you leave the DB you are on your own and if your opponent is not also using a DB it is likely this will occur within a dozen moves.
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Originally posted by eldragonflyOhhh, you cut me to the quick with that one. Name the time and place, I'll have a chess board and pieces and clock ready.
sure you wouldn't. Let's see, who adopts the cowardly lion approach and who doesn't, who is responsible and who isn't, whose rating does drop by several hundred points OTB and whose doesn't? Try again.
BTW, your arrogance pretty well shows you would have zero chance in an OTB game with Dragonfire or even me for that matter. Arrogance has no place in chess, it just shows the instability of the player.
Kas, Fischer, Tal, maybe they can display a bit of arrogance, but a little twit like you acting like the all knowing GM, give me a break. You wouldn't be able to punch your way out of a wet paper bag on the chessboard.
You act like it's just an ego thing to use a DB. You can't get it through your rather thin skull, the reason most people play here is to learn to play OTB better and the long hard look at variations through the use of DB is one way to do just that, not to just win a game against a stronger opponent through mindless parroting of moves.
Originally posted by Renarsno.
just wondering (and not that it'd concern me in particular 🙂 ) if the banned players actually get a warning first from the site admins before being banned for good? like, giving them a chance to perhaps reveal their real identity (hey, I'm a top 5 player in my country and my ELO is 2300)
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Originally posted by sonhouseWhat a load of transparent childish selfserving blather. Your post is nothing but empty threats and incoherent "show me a chessboard" arrogance. and no matter who would win or lose your imaginary match, it wouldn't prove that people who are fond of using databases aren't using them as a form of cheating, or have any realword chess skillz. 🙄
Arrogance has no place in chess, it just shows the instability of the player.
Originally posted by Dragon FireExcept of course you forgot to explain the several hundred point rating difference between database queens here and real OTB chess. 😞
.... and when they get there they will find that their careless DB use has simply got them into a lost postion.
I can vouch from experience having managed to get myself into a lost position on a number of occasions following a book (not a DB) or a "won" position that I had no idea how to win.
Now I always play a DB line through and study the deviat ...[text shortened]... and if your opponent is not also using a DB it is likely this will occur within a dozen moves.
Originally posted by eldragonflyAnd you seem to be forgetting that real OTB rating and RHP rating are incomparable. Those are two different systems based on different players' results. There's absolutely no reason to compare them.
Except of course you forgot to explain the several hundred point rating difference between database queens here and real OTB chess. 😞
This is CC. In CC databases are allowed and are a tool of study. If you don't like that, go play on FICS or Playchess, or play OTB. End of story.
Originally posted by kbaumenIt's the dirty little secret that nobody want to talk about, no wonder you database apologists are falling all over yourselves to defend it. and kbaumen there's that transparent justification again.
And you seem to be forgetting that real OTB rating and RHP rating are incomparable.
Originally posted by eldragonflyIt's no secret that using a database or opening book against someone who refuses to on a CC site generally gives the database user an opening advantage. It is also beyond question that those who refuse to use a database or opening book are generally weaker players. I seriously doubt that their are many strong OTB players who play on a CC site and refuse to use allowed opening aids. Perhaps I am mistaken.
It's the dirty little secret that nobody want to talk about, no wonder you database apologists are falling all over yourselves to defend it. and kbaumen there's that transparent justification again.
Over reliance on CC sites for an OTB player seems to create certain problems though I think the opening is a small one. Switching between games and virtually unlimited time seem to be more of an issue as far as distinguishing OTB play from CC. I've reached the conclusion that real time sites are a better substitute for OTB play with the caveat that the OTB player must be prepared to accept far shorter time controls than he will experience in serious OTB tourneys if he wants to play regularly (it's hard to get a game on ICC with time controls greater than 20-30 minutes for example).
Originally posted by no1marauderFine, i really don't care. i just don't understand why it has taken so long for someone to state this simple and obvious fact.
It's no secret that using a database or opening book against someone who refuses to on a CC site generally gives the database user an opening advantage.
Originally posted by KeplerYou were going to say Greenpawn is without doubt the
Strange, can't get anything to show in my previous post. Even editing doesn't work. Forgotten what I wanted to say now anyway.
handsomest chess player on the site - thank you.
I've seen a few of these blank posts - I think if you post nothing
then you cannot edit it because there is nothing to edit.
I'll try it....wait.