No more Seadevil?
19 Aug '08 18:451 editLooks like he is gone, banned, looks like. Well I hate to be the one who said 'told you so'.
20 Aug '08 03:13Originally posted by Fat LadyHow can one possibly identify a cheat?
Don't know who you'd be telling. Everyone knew he was a cheat.
20 Aug '08 03:21Originally posted by ram1977If a user has above a 95% matchup to an engine, it's pretty obvious that they're cheating. I think (not sure) that the 15% or so of moves of top players in CC that do NOT match an engine's pick are actually better than the engine's.
How can one possibly identify a cheat?
If a software suggests the best possible move and if one comes up with the same move with his/her analysis, will that person be branded as a cheat?
I am wondering how...!!!
20 Aug '08 06:01Originally posted by Fat LadyActually, I WAS telling everyone, PM'd my opinion to several dudes, based on what I saw in his profile chart and the level of games he was playing, very few upper ranks, a lot of 1300 players and so forth.
Don't know who you'd be telling. Everyone knew he was a cheat.
20 Aug '08 06:061 editOriginally posted by ram1977It takes a bit of analysis, like you could be using fritz on a 500 Mhz single CPU machine and it will come up with certain moves or you could be using shredder on an 8 CPU monster number cruncher. They will give quite different moves but you have to analyze the same game using both settings before you can say anything about those two, whether a certain game has a series of moves that matches the exact configuration. So it's not a quicky kind of thing. There are dozens of progs out there and a lot of configurations to put each program on so I am suprised they can find a match at all.
How can one possibly identify a cheat?
If a software suggests the best possible move and if one comes up with the same move with his/her analysis, will that person be branded as a cheat?
I am wondering how...!!!
20 Aug '08 07:50Originally posted by sonhouseI think Fat Lady identified Seadevil as a cheat long before anyone else, seeing as he knew who he really was OTB. I recollect FL telling me about Seadevil well over 12 months ago.
Actually, I WAS telling everyone, PM'd my opinion to several dudes, based on what I saw in his profile chart and the level of games he was playing, very few upper ranks, a lot of 1300 players and so forth.
20 Aug '08 09:37Originally posted by SquelchbelchSo this game was some kind of engine vs engine?
Who'd have thought eh..?
cludi vs seadevil.
Engine vs engine.
[GameId "2580860"]
I remember being rather *ahem* cynical about this game a while back & several apologists saying words along the lines of "oh yes it's all quite straightforward to a good player with long time controls".
20 Aug '08 10:101 editOriginally posted by FabianFnasI don't know about the match-up figures but Black allows White to get 2 queens on the board first, but has the tactics all under control & forces the win anyway.
So this game was some kind of engine vs engine?
Please tell me, what is it with this game that make it suspicios enginge game?
When I play people way higher my own rating, OTB or CC, I don't understand their moves sometimes, but to suspect that they're using an engine...? Who am I to be the judge of that?
20 Aug '08 10:17Originally posted by FabianFnasHere is the position after 81.Kf2
Please tell me, what is it with this game that make it suspicious engine game?
20 Aug '08 10:38Originally posted by Fat LadyI can see that he did a curious move after your description. But then, he has a rating of 2400+, his moves are very deep.
Here is the position after 81.Kf2
[fen]8/1k1b1Q2/1p2p1P1/6q1/1P1p4/5P2/5K2/8[/fen]
Look at it carefully. Black is a piece up, but White is just two moves from queening and additionally is threatening to capture Black's extra piece with check. Luckily Black can bail out with a perpetual check.
But instead, Black plays 81. ... Qd5, allowing White to qu ...[text shortened]... adevil isn't) to even consider this, let alone have faith that your calculations are correct.
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