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  1. 06 Feb '10 21:54
    I don't know if this is a coincidence or not, but after my OTB games I normally put them into Fritz. Something I've found is that when I resign, Fritz' evaluation is normally about 9 in favour of my opponent. Now I don't play a huge number of OTB games, and recently I've had a huge run of luck in terms of not losing, so my sample isn't that big. Has anyone else found that they have a "resigning threshold" when an engine has a look through their games?
  2. 06 Feb '10 21:56
    What do you mean by "resigning threshold"?
  3. 06 Feb '10 21:56
    For me there never is any need to resign 😕
  4. 06 Feb '10 22:02
    Ill resign when and only when I see no option of escape or stalemate. If my opponent has played well up until the end I resign if not then I might give it a shot and keep going.
  5. Standard member clandarkfire
    Grammar Nazi
    06 Feb '10 22:13
    I resign when I'm a piece down with no compensation - that usually comes to about minus 4 in an engine. However, I think I'm the exception. At my level (I play scholastic chess with other people who are mainly 18 or younger) which is about 1550 uscf, I have found that at least 60 percent of my opponents play on until mate. Personally, I think its kind of annoying
  6. 06 Feb '10 22:19
    Originally posted by Blitz00
    What do you mean by "resigning threshold"?
    All I meant was, is there an engine rating that seems to be about when you resign a game. So for me, if I was white, apparently I resign when Fritz thinks it's about -9.0. Obviously I don't know this during the game, but I find it out afterwards.
  7. 06 Feb '10 22:23
    Check out Corus C, they all resigned (or not) more or less around -20
  8. 06 Feb '10 22:58
    You resign when you think there no longer is any hope your oppent will not mess up.
    I never look at the engine evaluation,don't use it like that.

    I did have a game once where I resigned and fritz said I had mate in 12 😞
  9. 07 Feb '10 11:16
    Dont be fooled into thinking that it is the honourable thing to do to resign when a piece or two pawns or an exchange down - you learn nothing by doing so, as you have sacrificed the opportunity to attempt to defend a really hard position and you have denied the opponent the opportunity to practise his technique of converting an advantage into a win. Only when you have played these sort of position out to the bitter end hundreds of times will you really be able to decide whether one is worthy of a resignation or not.
  10. 07 Feb '10 13:16
    Originally posted by Ajuin
    You resign when you think there no longer is any hope your oppent will not mess up.
    I never look at the engine evaluation,don't use it like that.

    I did have a game once where I resigned and fritz said I had mate in 12 😞
    Hi Ajuin.

    Can you PM me the game. I have a space on The Corner for
    this kind of stuff.

    Anybody resigned in a won/drawn position? Prefer OTB games.

    I have a few who resigned against me in won positions.

    Me. I wring the last trick out of a position before calling it a day.
    I have won/drawn so many games I should have lost.

    This one. Jonathan King v GC. 1994 I should have played on, I could
    have made it very difficult for my opponent but never realised his
    King and my a-pawn are NOT in the square.

    I resigned here, but if we go the obvious way.




    And it's not a routine win.
    I pick up the f6 pawn due to my passers.
    We were into an allegro finish now and my moves are easy to see
    White needs to tread with care.
  11. 07 Feb '10 13:50
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    Hi Ajuin.

    Can you PM me the game. I have a space on The Corner for
    this kind of stuff.

    Anybody resigned in a won/drawn position? Prefer OTB games.

    I have a few who resigned against me in won positions.

    Me. I wring the last trick out of a position before calling it a day.
    I have won/drawn so many games I should have lost.

    This one. Jonat ...[text shortened]... egro finish now and my moves are easy to see
    White needs to tread with care.
    That game was played,I think,early 90's.Nearly 20 years ago!I don't have it on the PC.
    I do have a box with old score sheets,I'll see if it's in there.
  12. 07 Feb '10 13:58
    Cheers.

    PM it so I can Corner it.
  13. Standard member clandarkfire
    Grammar Nazi
    07 Feb '10 17:28 / 1 edit
    Here is a famous position of resigning in a won position:

    Black to play, resigned.


    Can you spot the winning move?
  14. 07 Feb '10 17:31
    It's only "famous" because Tim Krabbé dug it up, right?
  15. 07 Feb '10 17:31
    Originally posted by clandarkfire
    Here is a famous position of resigning in a won position:

    Black to play, resigned.
    [fen]7k/1b1r2p1/p6p/1p2qN2/3bP3/3Q4/P5PP/1B1R3K[/fen]

    Can you spot the winning move?
    Bf1