Originally posted by MeadowsI've had people accept a draw in a winning position. In [gid] 6753850[/gid] I was waiting for my opponent to play d4, which I'm pretty sure would have won him the game, but he seemed reluctant to do so. Just for the hell of it, I offered the draw, which he accepted. Lucky me!!
I don't know if this is a coincidence or not, but after my OTB games I normally put them into Fritz. Something I've found is that when I resign, Fritz' evaluation is normally about 9 in favour of my opponent. Now I don't play a huge number of OTB games, and recently I've had a huge run of luck in terms of not losing, so my sample isn't that big. Has anyon ...[text shortened]... nd that they have a "resigning threshold" when an engine has a look through their games?
Originally posted by acb123Try again. Game 6753859[/b].
I've had people accept a draw in a winning position. In [gid] 6753850[/gid] I was waiting for my opponent to play d4, which I'm pretty sure would have won him the game, but he seemed reluctant to do so. Just for the hell of it, I offered the draw, which he accepted. Lucky me!!
Originally posted by MeadowsThe general rule of thumb for me is not to resign when I'm winning. There are some exceptions, of course, but that's the system I go by
I don't know if this is a coincidence or not, but after my OTB games I normally put them into Fritz. Something I've found is that when I resign, Fritz' evaluation is normally about 9 in favour of my opponent. Now I don't play a huge number of OTB games, and recently I've had a huge run of luck in terms of not losing, so my sample isn't that big. Has anyon ...[text shortened]... nd that they have a "resigning threshold" when an engine has a look through their games?
Originally posted by TiwakingThe mating sequence for white is actually quite pretty - it's mate in 7 if black chooses to sac his queen first on d4, otherwise in 5, white sacrifices both his knights and the mate looks like this:
If I were black in this situation, I would resign
[pgn][Event "Challenge"] [Site "http://www.redhotpawn.com"] [Date "2010.02.03"] [Round "?"] [White "Tiwaking"] [Black "Anaraith"] [WhiteRating "1369"] [BlackRating "1200"] [WhiteELO "1369"] [BlackELO "1200"] [Result "*"] [GameId "7143148"] 1. f4 d5 2. Ng1f3 b6 3. e3 e6 4. c4 dxc4 5. Nb1c3 f6 6. Bf1xc4 g5 7. fxg5 fxg5 8. Nf3e5 Bf8g7 9. Qd1h5 * [/pgn]
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Originally posted by davanielEh?
The mating sequence for white is actually quite pretty - it's mate in 7 if black chooses to sac his queen first on d4, otherwise in 5, white sacrifices both his knights and the mate looks like this:
[fen]rnbq2nr/p1p3bp/1p2p3/6p1/2BPk3/4PQ2/PP4PP/R1B1K2R b KQ - 0 13[/fen]
From: http://forums.gamerhub.co.nz/showpost.php?p=1065862&postcount=137
9. Qh5+ !!
The game is totally over. From here on in Blacks moves are forced
9. Qh5+ Ke7 forced 10. Qf7+ Kd6 forced 11. Nb5+!!
First mating pattern occurs after: 11. ... Kxe5
12. d4+ Ke4 forced. 13. Nc3++
[edit] Looks like the game has ended this way:
Game 7143148[/edit]
Second, more beautiful checkmate, occurs after: 11. ... Kc5
Although most of the following moves ARE forced, some are a choice but they will be played regardless of order
12. d4+ Kb4 13. a3+ Ka4 14. b3+ Ka5 15. Bd2+ Ka6
16. Nf6+ (this prevents the king retreating with Kb7) b5 forced blocking
17. Bxb5+ Kb6
18. Nc4++
[img]http://tiwaking.hostzi.com/chess/tvsanmate2.gif[/img]
Notice the material exchanged in this game: Two pawns to three pawns!
Originally posted by TyrannosauruschexAgreed. I've won quite a few games with what I've learned in lost positions by playing on until the end.
Dont be fooled into thinking that it is the honourable thing to do to resign when a piece or two pawns or an exchange down - you learn nothing by doing so, as you have sacrificed the opportunity to attempt to defend a really hard position and you have denied the opponent the opportunity to practise his technique of converting an advantage into a wi ...[text shortened]... ndreds of times will you really be able to decide whether one is worthy of a resignation or not.
Sometimes a player will get irritated that you play on but... oh well. You both agreed to the time controls.
Originally posted by clandarkfireYou do not try to clear the board of all of the pawns and pieces and leave your opponent with draw?
I resign when I'm a piece down with no compensation - that usually comes to about minus 4 in an engine. However, I think I'm the exception. At my level (I play scholastic chess with other people who are mainly 18 or younger) which is about 1550 uscf, I have found that at least 60 percent of my opponents play on until mate. Personally, I think its kind of annoying