26 Jan '09 15:49>
Originally posted by paulbuchmanfromficsDidn't look at this thread(s) for a while. Where is compensation for the lack of material ??
This is a continuation of Thread 106464.
The new move is 23. exd5.
[pgn]1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 g6 6.Be3 Bg7 7.f3 0-0 8.Qd2 Nc6 9.Bc4 Bd7 10.0-0-0 Rc8 11.Bb3 Ne5 12.Kb1 Nc4 13.Bxc4 Rxc4 14.g4 b5 15.b3 b4 16.bxc4 bxc3 17.Qxc3 Qc7 18.h4 h5 19.g5 Rb8+ 20.Ka1 Ne8 21.Rb1 Rc8 22.Rb2 d5 23.exd5 [/pgn]
Originally posted by ResigningSoonWhat about after 23.exd5 Nd6 24.c5
23.exd5 Nd6 24.c5 Qxc5 25.Qxc5 Rxc5 26.Rc1 Rxd5 27.c3
Originally posted by ThomasterI've been trying hard to avoid comments like this. Give concrete lines and then try to evaluate the end position.
White can't save his c-pawn after 23... Nd6, so why not making our knight more active?
I vote for 23. ... N-d6
Originally posted by TheGambitIsn't it one passed pawn and one half passed? Why does white have all that stuff on the diagonal like that, I mean the g7 bishop seems to be exerting a lot of influence on things there.Why hasn't he done a king trip to get it out of harms way?
Yes, looking at it, a pair of passed pawns would probably be the death of black.
Originally posted by sonhouseOne half passed? That's funny.
Isn't it one passed pawn and one half passed? Why does white have all that stuff on the diagonal like that, I mean the g7 bishop seems to be exerting a lot of influence on things there.Why hasn't he done a king trip to get it out of harms way?
Originally posted by moteutschHope this is a joke?! If not, our position is perfectly viable - put some effort into finding the best way forward. At the moment I'm leaning towards 23...Nd6 and if 24.c5 then 24...Qxc5 and I don't see why we should be worse.
I'm sorry to say that we're lost. Yes we've put all his pieces on the diagnol, and yes, we've shattered his pawn structure, but face it: we're down an Exchange and two pawns. We have no initiative. We have no space. The g7 bishop is shooting blanks.
I vote for [b]1-0.[/b]
Originally posted by streetfighterI agree. I will post some of my analysis when I get home from work, but I think any type of general comments should be backed up with some analysis. It's a complete waste of your time and Russ' space to post something like, "We're lost LOLZ! RESIGN!" or "I like ...Nd6 because it activates our knight." Prove it with some analysis, and then we can get some constructive commentary happening. General comments in a position as weird as this one are useless, since the position is so concrete, and we're down four points of material (although we're surely going to get at least 2 back). We need hard analysis, with some evaluations at the end when the position has clarified itself a bit.
Hope this is a joke?! If not, our position is perfectly viable - put some effort into finding the best way forward. At the moment I'm leaning towards 23...Nd6 and if 24.c5 then 24...Qxc5 and I don't see why we should be worse.