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06 Mar 07
06 Mar 07
Originally posted by wittywonkaSorry, I mean repeating the position 3 times. I don't think there is an actual rule on perpectual check but a mediator should be able to review the position and determine the draw.
Seriously? Only 3?
Wikipedia says that perpectual check has removed from the rules of chess because a draw will usually result from the threefold repetition or fifty move rule.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_check
06 Mar 07
Originally posted by wittywonkaPerpetual Check is a draw only because its a certain instance of either of these scenarios. I'm pretty sure its not a real rule, but rather just a phenomenon.
Well, I know about 3-fold repitition and the 50 move rule, but I thought that after a certain number (not 3 or 50) of consecutive checks, then the game would also be a draw...
06 Mar 07
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Originally posted by 93confirmedDoes anyone know what year it was removed from the official rules?
Sorry, I mean repeating the position 3 times. I don't think there is an actual rule on perpectual check but a mediator should be able to review the position and determine the draw.
Wikipedia says that perpectual check has removed from the rules of chess because a draw will usually result from the threefold repetition or fifty move rule.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_check
06 Mar 07
Originally posted by zebanoIt does to me.
seeing as it is redundant, does it matter?
I seem to remember that as something I understood to be a rule, if so it would have been the result of reading my 1977 official rules of chess.
I more recently was looking through the rules and found there was not actual perpetual check rule (other than the obvious ability to generate a 3x repetition or 50 move rule from a perpetual check). Now I am curious as to whether I misread the rule book several years ago, or if the rule changed since I first read the rule book.
06 Mar 07
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Originally posted by RedmikeIt would be interesting to see if it would be possible to even invoke the 50-move rule using perpetual check... you would think that there would be a repeat of the position at leat 3 times after 50 moves.
There was never a specific rule on perpetual check.
Perpetual check is simply one particular means of forcing either a 3-fold repitition or the 50-move rule.
I guess maybe if there is only a K+Q vs K and the person doesn't know how to mate it could be possible.
07 Mar 07
Originally posted by ChessJesterHonorable men should not nit-pick, but since I'm not honorable, here goes.
It would be interesting to see if it would be possible to even invoke the 50-move rule using perpetual check... you would think that there would be a repeat of the position at leat 3 times after 50 moves.
I guess maybe if there is only a K+Q vs K and the person doesn't know how to mate it could be possible.
Since the 3x repeat needs to be claimed by a side in order to take effect, one could always forgo the claim for a 3x repeat and strive for the 50 move rule. If your opponent were equally childish, it could happen.