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  1. 15 Feb '07 14:51
    can anyone suggest a definative opening refrence for the GG. i currently looking at: Play 1.D4!
  2. 15 Feb '07 15:06 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by likeforest
    can anyone suggest a definative opening refrence for the GG. i currently looking at: Play 1.D4!
    By the "GG" I assume you meant "gee gee", otherwise known as the Horse or the Reti. You can find a number of books about this fascinating opening here:
    http://www.chessdirect.co.uk/acatalog/CATALOGUE___SHOP_1_Nf3_40.html
  3. Standard member Diet Coke
    Forum Vampire
    15 Feb '07 15:14
    Originally posted by likeforest
    can anyone suggest a definative opening refrence for the GG. i currently looking at: Play 1.D4!
    1. Nf3 d5
    2. c4 d4

    You mean?

    Don't, it's probably one of the lines a reti player will be most prepared for.
  4. 15 Feb '07 16:09
    Queens Gambit
  5. Standard member Diet Coke
    Forum Vampire
    15 Feb '07 16:10
    You want a opening for the queens gambit.

    For which side?
  6. 15 Feb '07 16:11
    white side, thanks
  7. Standard member Diet Coke
    Forum Vampire
    15 Feb '07 16:12
    Well it depends whether black accepts or not.

    I don't play this as white so I'm running dry here.
  8. Standard member onyx2006
    onyx2007
    15 Feb '07 16:18
    Originally posted by Diet Coke
    Well it depends whether black accepts or not.

    I don't play this as white so I'm running dry here.
    you ran dry a long time ago
  9. Standard member Diet Coke
    Forum Vampire
    15 Feb '07 16:23
    Originally posted by onyx2006
    you ran dry a long time ago
  10. 15 Feb '07 16:50
    not sure about 'definitive' but Chris Ward's Play The Queens Gambit is an aggressive repertoire for white and is written in a format that is easy to read.
  11. 16 Feb '07 03:46
    Originally posted by likeforest
    can anyone suggest a definative opening refrence for the GG. i currently looking at: Play 1.D4!
    Well, you have to consider that black's going to do much more than play 1...d5 against you - you'll probably see 1...Nf6 two or three times more often.

    So breaking things down, against

    1...d5 2.c4 dxc4 3.e4 is the aggressive way to play, you have to consider other options though, i.e. 3.Nc3, 3.e3, 3.Nf3. I can't tell you everything about these lines because I don't play 1.d4 but somebody mentioned the QG book by Ward - if you're serious about the KG I'd look that book up on amazon (great prices, best shipping and return policies).

    1...d5 2.c4 e6 - Standard Declined, These positions are generally slower, so you may have to search a bit for something sharp if you aren't content with it.

    Black can also play the Slav/Semi-Slav which you absolutely MUST be prepared for.

    1...Nf6 you can try to avoid the mainlines with the Trompowky (2.Bg5) or you can play the more sound but theory heavy mainlines starting with 2.c4. From here you HAVE to be prepared for the NID, KID, QID, Benko, Grunfeld, Benoni, and wary of stuff like the Budapest Gambit - which can be nasty.

    So you'll have to do your fair share of research. You're looking at 1-2 years before mastering a lot of this stuff. Which isn't bad, 1.e4 is about the same. I'd do some book browsing on amazon, and check out GM (recentish...) games with 1.d4.

    -CMS
  12. Donation !~TONY~!
    1...c5!
    16 Feb '07 04:38
    Buy Ward's Book "Play the Queen's Gambit". It only covers 1. d4 d5 2. c4, so it's all about the Queen's Gambit, and the lines are clearly more agressive and interesting than Palliser's "Play 1.d4!", although that is a decent book also.
  13. 16 Feb '07 15:44
    Originally posted by cmsMaster

    1...Nf6 you can try to avoid the mainlines with the Trompowky (2.Bg5) or you can play the more sound but theory heavy mainlines starting with 2.c4. From here you HAVE to be prepared for the NID, KID, QID, Benko, Grunfeld, Benoni, and wary of stuff like the Budapest Gambit - which can be nasty.
    You can avoid some of those with 2. Nf3
  14. 16 Feb '07 16:01
    You should also be prepared against my new (borderline unsound but not completely losing) favorite:

    1. d4 d5
    2. c4 e5
  15. 16 Feb '07 16:39
    does play 1.d4! cover every sensible reply to d4?. which book whould be more suited towards a lower rated player. i have never studied openings and feel like i need to get my feet wet. also, i dont want to play to aggresivley. i would like to play very solid opening moves that will give me a small advantage. thanks guys!