Originally posted by ivan2908i can play it...
I would like to play a game, sicilian dragon opening, with someone in the 1600-1800 range to try it out. Any dragon player here? Please post reply, so I will challenge you, time controls 3/7, me playing as black.
Thanks
not in the rating range, but i know all the moves for a long time...
it's the simplest of all Sicilian lines i think, as it is the first most people learn...
Originally posted by Meneer DriesAnything that starts 1. e4 c5 is the Sicilian defense. After that the various moves determine which particular variation you are in.
what exactly is the sicilian dragon opening?
not interested in playing because my rating is far too low but I woul like to learn more of this opening with a cool name.
The dragon is
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 g6
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicilian_Defense
Originally posted by rubberjaw30I would play with you, but I already found my opponent, and now I am playing maximum 6 games. I can challenge you when I will have one of the games clear though. I will try to learn well this opening, as well as other best sicilians variations, I am sick of losing Italian as black! Any good sicilian book reccomandations?
i can play it...
not in the rating range, but i know all the moves for a long time...
it's the simplest of all Sicilian lines i think, as it is the first most people learn...
Originally posted by zebanoand 99 times out of a hundred, it continues with the yugoslav attack with (not necessarily in this order)
Anything that starts 1. e4 c5 is the Sicilian defense. After that the various moves determine which particular variation you are in.
The dragon is
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 g6
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicilian_Defense
6. Be3 Bg6
7. f3 0-0
8. Qd2 Nc6
9. 0-0-0 Bd7
10. Bc4 Rc8
11. Bb3 a5
12. h4 with resulting attacks on opposite sides of the board against the kings...
white has advantage, but black usually has good play after a typical Rook sac on c3...
fun line, hasn't been entirely refuted, but the Dragon is going out of style quickly...
if your opponent isnt familiar with a Maroczy bind, i suggest the Accelerated Dragon, which is good for black unless white plays c4 (Maroczy Bind)
Originally posted by ivan2908yes, pick up anybook on the closed Sicilian...
I would play with you, but I already found my opponent, and now I am playing maximum 6 games. I can challenge you when I will have one of the games clear though. I will try to learn well this opening, as well as other best sicilians variations, I am sick of losing Italian as black! Any good sicilian book reccomandations?
black players need to know what to do...
great opening with nice positional play for both...
gotta go
Originally posted by rubberjaw3011...Ne5 not 11...a5.
and 99 times out of a hundred, it continues with the yugoslav attack with (not necessarily in this order)
6. Be3 Bg6
7. f3 0-0
8. Qd2 Nc6
9. 0-0-0 Bd7
10. Bc4 Rc8
11. Bb3 a5
12. h4 with resulting attacks on opposite sides of the board against the kings...
white has advantage, but black usually has good play after a typical Rook sac on c3... ...[text shortened]... i suggest the Accelerated Dragon, which is good for black unless white plays c4 (Maroczy Bind)
Originally posted by ivan2908There's bound to be a book on the Dragon in the Starting Out series of books. I have the one on the Dutch and found it very useful, although that doesn't mean the dragon one is any good...
Any good sicilian book reccomandations?
A very interesting book is called Tactics in the Sicilian, by Gennady Nesis. It doesn't concentrate on any particular Sicilian variation, but rather considers tactical themes (pins, forks, attack on the castled king, attack on the uncastled king, etc.) in the context of the Sicilian, so really it is a middle game book. It won't teach you specific lines of play (which generally aren't worth knowing to start with anyway) but does help you with what to look out for when playing the Sicilian, and should help you with what you are trying to aim for when playing the opening. There are plenty of examples from Dragon games, so I think you will find it useful, assuming it's still in print...
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Originally posted by zebanoFor the people who like to attack a lot I recommend the Levenfish attack variation:
Anything that starts 1. e4 c5 is the Sicilian defense. After that the various moves determine which particular variation you are in.
The dragon is
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 g6
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicilian_Defense
After 5....g6
6.f4 Nc6 7.Nxc6 bxc6 8.e5 Nbd7 9.exd6 exd6 10. Be3 Be7 11.Qf3 d5
12.0-0-0 Bf6 13.Bd4 0-0
Another way is 6.f4 Nc6 7.Nf3 Bg7 8.Bd3 0-0 9.0-0 b6 10.Qe1 Nb4 11.Qh4 Nxd3 12.cxd3 Ba6 which leaves the position equal for both white and black.
Originally posted by rubberjaw30a5 doesn't make sense there, Ne5 is the book move, and it's just...THE move. It makes most sense in the position - black's plan isn't to push the a pawn, it's to attack queenside, primarily down the half open C file.
why?
i thought pawn pushes
(a pawn for black, and h pawn for white)
were thematic in the Dragon...
Originally posted by rubberjaw30because practice has shown that while white can spearhead his attack with pawn pushes, black must rely on piece play to contend as Black's pawn storm cant contend with white's.
ok then, so why not b5 instead?
the Yugoslav Attack is absurdly complicated, avoid it if you don't have study time