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  1. 20 Sep '13 08:47 / 3 edits
    This thread might fail by being to simple but here goes

    I want a thread for simple opening tactics - here are 3 to start with, they rarely get played but the threat of them affects the way I play openings. please add more

    1 Loss of Queen

    2 Loss of Rook

    3 Marshalls Mate

    please add more any opening tricks in particular, there's another early queen trap but I've forgotten it...

    Edit the Marshalls mate line is wrong, but people still fall for it even when it is - black can win...
  2. Standard member hedonist
    peacedog's keeper
    20 Sep '13 10:43
    Why the Queen's Gambit isn't a gambit.

  3. Standard member ChessPraxis
    Cowboy From Hell
    20 Sep '13 12:10
    I've never heard #3 called Marshall's Mate. I've always heard it called Légal's Mate.
  4. Subscriber Marinkatomb
    20 Sep '13 14:31 / 3 edits
    Great idea for a thread. This is another more direct version of your second example...

    Black (after the initial blunder of 2..f6) might try to avoid this by trying this also..

    Either way 3.Nxe5 should be an automatic response..

    Your example doesn't work as black doesn't have to play ..d5.

  5. 20 Sep '13 18:07
    Originally posted by hedonist
    Why the Queen's Gambit isn't a gambit.

    [pgn]1. d4 d5 2. c4 d5xc4 3. e3 b5 4. a4 c6 5. a4xb5 c6xb5 Qf3{The Rook is lost}[/pgn]
    I've fallen for that!
  6. 20 Sep '13 18:59 / 2 edits
    The Fritz Attack - have won quite a few games with this

    The Blackburne Shilling Gambit - same threat.

    that'll learn em
  7. Standard member SwissGambit
    Caninus Interruptus
    20 Sep '13 19:08
    2 common ones in the Pirc.

  8. Standard member SwissGambit
    Caninus Interruptus
    20 Sep '13 19:14
    Damiano's Defense

  9. 21 Sep '13 00:52 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by SwissGambit
    Damiano's Defense

    [Event "Edited game"]
    [Date "2013.09.20"]
    [Round "-"]
    [White "-"]
    [Black "-"]
    [Result "*"]

    1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 f6 3. Nxe5 fxe5 { ?? 3...Qe7 is the only sane move. } 4. Qh5+ { ...g6 Qxe5+ and bye bye Rh8. } 4... Ke7 5. Qxe5+ Kf7 6. Bc4+ Kg6 7. Qf5+ Kh6 8. d4+ g5 9. h4 { and if black escapes this alive, he's a defensive miracle-worker. }
    tres bien

    Happy Halloween 1

    White plays for the fools mate, its hard to defend, try to get rooks on e1 and d1.

    Happy Halloween 2

    Guard the d6 pawn, try to fork blacks rook by threatening c7 with the knight.
  10. 21 Sep '13 03:01
    Hi SG.

    The second one with the Pawn Fork Trick in the Pirc.
    You need to go further, in some cases further than some books on the Pirc do.

    here after 6...Nxe4

    A common reply is 7.Bxf7+ we have both been on the Black side of this on here.
    One of yours is Game 6971092 and mine is Game 5382472

    After 7...Rxf7 8.Nxe4

    Black must pause for 8...h6 to stop the awkward Ng5 (as we both did.)
    Now it's now theory, I recall back in the early days is was not mentioned and
    stopped where you did.

    I hit on 8...h6 after getting walloped OTB because I left it out.

    Even with 8...h6 played there is still work to be done, though Black does
    have the easier task, but even with h6 White has wins here and OTB.

    Good thread, I've seen nothing new but keep up the good work, someone
    will use an idea. These tricks and traps are older than God's dog but they
    still catch people out.
  11. Standard member Dr Boskonovitch
    21 Sep '13 04:01 your first example you showed Qe7..dumb about Be7
  12. Subscriber roma45
    st johnstone
    21 Sep '13 07:52 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Dr Boskonovitch your first example you showed Qe7..dumb about Be7
    knight would take the queen

  13. 21 Sep '13 10:29
    Here's a simple trick

    Use the queen to fork the pawns on f7 and b7.

    Blunder in the Ruy Lopez

    Not loosing but white has an awful position
  14. 21 Sep '13 11:23 / 1 edit

    opening a rook file against the king
  15. 21 Sep '13 14:16 / 2 edits
    tres bien Robbie!

    An early fork for black.

    White can play Qh5, but usually works better for black, I play it.

    White has this nice counter - not sure how sound it is.

    There is a made up opening called the Frankenstein Dracula Gambit (seriously!) I think its in this line, its stupidly complex with every trick in the book almost if you have it please post