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  1. 08 Oct '07 21:17
    In the past few weeks, I read a story that was probably supposed to be fictional and humorous. The punchline was something like this: A father's last words of wisdom to his son as the father died were, "Never move your king bishop pawn." I'm sure I'm missing all the context and butchering the story, which is exactly why I want to find it. I couldn't find this with Internet searches. Can anyone find this story anywhere? Thanks.
  2. 08 Oct '07 23:19
    Originally posted by HolyT
    In the past few weeks, I read a story that was probably supposed to be fictional and humorous. The punchline was something like this: A father's last words of wisdom to his son as the father died were, "Never move your king bishop pawn." I'm sure I'm missing all the context and butchering the story, which is exactly why I want to find it. I couldn't find this with Internet searches. Can anyone find this story anywhere? Thanks.
    the father just got refuted:
    1. f4!!
  3. 08 Oct '07 23:21
    ...& it does kind of rule out the King's gambit at move 2
  4. 08 Oct '07 23:23
    Originally posted by Squelchbelch
    ...& it does kind of rule out the King's gambit at move 2
    and the Grand Prix Attack
    speaking of which, haven't heard from that line in a while...
    has it been refuted or something?
  5. Standard member bannedplayer306509
    Best Loser
    09 Oct '07 00:14 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by rubberjaw30
    and the Grand Prix Attack
    speaking of which, haven't heard from that line in a while...
    has it been refuted or something?
    2. ... d5 gives black (supposedly) a significant advantage.
  6. 09 Oct '07 00:19
    Originally posted by ih8sens
    2. ... d5 gives black (supposedly) a significant advantage.
    yeah, yeah, yeah
    but the "correct" GPA is
    1. e4 c5
    2. Nc3 Nc6
    3. f4 etc.
  7. 09 Oct '07 00:22 / 1 edit
    1. e4 f6!?

    Game 3739326
  8. 09 Oct '07 00:41 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Drew L
    1. e4 f6!?

    Game 3739326
    God what junk!
    All I can say is you're lucky white neglected piece development early on & decided to push pawns instead.
    5.f4? is so painful on the eyes when 5.Nf3 is called for followed by 0-0, d5 & it's a turkey shoot.
  9. 09 Oct '07 00:58
    Originally posted by Squelchbelch
    God what junk!
    All I can say is you're lucky white neglected piece development early on & decided to push pawns instead.
    5.f4? is so painful on the eyes when 5.Nf3 is called for followed by 0-0, d5 & it's a turkey shoot.
    agreed, just do me a favor, and don't try to start arguing 1. ... f6? as a valid defence
  10. 09 Oct '07 01:37 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by rubberjaw30
    agreed, just do me a favor, and don't try to start arguing 1. ... f6? as a valid defence
    What makes a defense valid?Is,in your opinion,answering 1.e4 with 1...,f6 a forced loss against good white play?
  11. Standard member Dutch Defense
    Stealer of Souls
    09 Oct '07 01:53
    Originally posted by ouwe belg
    What makes a defense valid?Is,in your opinion,answering 1.e5 with 1...,f6 a forced loss against good white play?
    that's 1.e4
  12. 09 Oct '07 01:58 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by ouwe belg
    What makes a defense valid?Is,in your opinion,answering 1.e5 with 1...,f6 a forced loss against good white play?
    1.e4...f6
    2.d4...e5
    3.dxe5...Nc6
    4.exf6...Nxf6
    Looks viable I suppose & appears 7 times on chesslive.de (3x1-0, 1x0-1 & 3x1/2 1/2). It's the 2...Kf7 nonsense I object to. Apparently the theory is to place the K on an unfamiliar square & prepare for an active K in the endgame, though in the Fried Fox that seems rather a faint hope!

    1.e4...f6
    2.d4...Kf7?
    Appears an astonishing 6 times (3x1-0, 2x0-1 & 1x1/2 1/2)
  13. 09 Oct '07 02:12
    Originally posted by Squelchbelch
    1.e4...f6
    2.d4...e5
    3.dxe5...Nc6
    4.exf6...Nxf6
    Looks viable I suppose & appears 7 times on chesslive.de (3x1-0, 1x0-1 & 3x1/2 1/2). It's the 2...Kf7 nonsense I object to. Apparently the theory is to place the K on an unfamiliar square & prepare for an active K in the endgame, though in the Fried Fox that seems rather a faint hope!

    1.e4...f6
    2.d4...Kf7?
    Appears an astonishing 6 times (3x1-0, 2x0-1 & 1x1/2 1/2)
    same idea as in the Himmelstrass (or whatever line goes 1. f3? 2. Kf2?)
  14. 09 Oct '07 02:21
    Originally posted by Dutch Defense
    that's 1.e4
    Quite right!Pardon my stupidity.Error corrected

    I agree 2...,Kf7 is weird and probably simply bad.
  15. 09 Oct '07 05:05
    Originally posted by HolyT
    In the past few weeks, I read a story that was probably supposed to be fictional and humorous. The punchline was something like this: A father's last words of wisdom to his son as the father died were, "Never move your king bishop pawn." I'm sure I'm missing all the context and butchering the story, which is exactly why I want to find it. I couldn't find this with Internet searches. Can anyone find this story anywhere? Thanks.
    He died half way through the sentence: "Never move your king bishop pawn against my pirc because I haven't got time before I die to learn to defend the against Austrian attack.