Originally posted by davanielthe Damiano Defence is not refuted as of yet, just seriously frowned upon.
Can transpose to the damiano defense: 1. e4 f6 2. Nf3 e5 3. Nxe5! If black takes the knight, interesting problems arise...
with the usual move order:
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 f6?!
3. Nxe5! Qe7
(not 3. ... fxe5? 4. Qh5+! Ke7 (4. ... g6 5. Qxe5+ Kf7 6. Qxh8 etc.) 5. Qxe5+ Kf7 6. Bc4+ d5 (6. ... Kg6 7. h4 h5 8. Qf5+ Kh6 9. d3+ Qg5 10. Bxg5++) 7. Bxd5+ Kg6 8. h4 h5 9. Bxb7!! Black resigns b/c 9. ... Bxb7 leads to same mating pattern as above. white should have no trouble finishing from there for any Black response.)
4. Nf3 Qxe4+
5. Be2 with far superior position. white looks for quick tactical win on the weak light kingside squares around the black king.
Originally posted by rubberjaw30It's not played that much at top level because if black knows what they're doing, getting a draw for them would be rather easy...and the main lines offer white a better chance of winning these days anyway..
yeah, yeah, yeah
but the "correct" GPA is
1. e4 c5
2. Nc3 Nc6
3. f4 etc.
Originally posted by Restless Soulare you suggesting that the Sicilian is fading out of the circuit?
It's not played that much at top level because if black knows what they're doing, getting a draw for them would be rather easy...and the main lines offer white a better chance of winning these days anyway..
what's white's most successful line?
is it the
2. Nc3
3. g3!! variation?
because Closed Sicilian RULES!!!!!!!
Except for the Dutch Defense, I can't think of very many good Black defenses where moving the f-pawn in the opening is a good idea. (...f5 is sometimes played early in the King's Indian Defense.)
Teaching a beginner not to move his f-pawn in the opening unless it is absolutely necessary is probably a good rule-of-thumb.
Originally posted by rubberjaw30As an occasional Bird's Opening player, I enjoy my game against every Black response except for 1...e5 (From's Gambit), when Black gets to have all the fun for the first 8 to 10 moves or so. The best way, at least for me, to rain on Black's parade is to tranpsose into the King's Gambit with 2 e4.
the father just got refuted:
1. f4!!
Originally posted by gaychessplayergood rule of thumb, but I started off with someone telling me this rule...
Except for the Dutch Defense, I can't think of very many good Black defenses where moving the f-pawn in the opening is a good idea. (...f5 is sometimes played early in the King's Indian Defense.)
Teaching a beginner not to move his f-pawn in the opening unless it is absolutely necessary is probably a good rule-of-thumb.
and for years I was scared to death to EVER move my f-pawn in any situation...
even when the position begged for it...
once someone learns these rules, the very nextt hing he/she must learn is when to break them...
Originally posted by rubberjaw30I somehow made it to 2002 USCF without ever moving my f-pawn in the opening or early middlegame. (That's only a very SLIGHT exaggeration!)
good rule of thumb, but I started off with someone telling me this rule...
and for years I was scared to death to EVER move my f-pawn in any situation...
even when the position begged for it...
once someone learns these rules, the very nextt hing he/she must learn is when to break them...
Originally posted by gaychessplayerbut what about the other rules?
I somehow made it to 2002 USCF without ever moving my f-pawn in the opening or early middlegame. (That's only a very SLIGHT exaggeration!)
knight on the rim is grim
bishops belong on long diagonals
knights developed before bishops
especially this last one,
surely you've broken these "rules" at least once.
let's see, you should protect the king
several lines of the King's Gambit Accepted result with white having a weak king compensated by a strong attack.
Originally posted by gaychessplayerJust curious gaychessplayer
I somehow made it to 2002 USCF without ever moving my f-pawn in the opening or early middlegame. (That's only a very SLIGHT exaggeration!)
you have one of your 2 current games against joelstaples who hasn't moved in 414 days. Why not skull him?
He joined the same day you did.
joelstaples has 2 games in progress, one with you and one with bl74, who by the way also joined the same day you did and hasn't moved in 400 days and has only had 2 games in progress. That person also hasn't skulled joelstaples. Couple of friends that joined the same time that didn't hang around?