Originally posted by robbie carrobie wussie, what's wrong wid you man? was it not good enough for the American masters, Morphy and Pillsbury? even that other great master, greenpawn plays it from time to time 🙂
Originally posted by robbie carrobie mmm, how vewy vewy intwesting Mr.Bond, why is Nc3 to be preferred over Nf3, i cannot see the value of it 🙁
it's really quite simple, mr. blofeld. with the Nf3 you haven't really declined anything, you're just postponing exd6 or losing the tempo capturing e5 and Bd6 chasing the knight back to f3. still from accepted, black gets what he wanted.
after Nc3 black capturing dxe5 doesn't pose a threat, as the e5 can't advance to e4 threatening the knight, because the other knight on c3 controls e4 square. white can simply ignore and continue developing Nf3-e4-Bc4 for examble and there's not a thing black can do about it. after white castles the rook is on a semi-open file targetting f7 together with the bishop, the f3 knight ready to join them.
why do we panick on the From gambit, while its just give black a little initiave, it is far from suffiscient for a pawn and almost always become wild complications.
Originally posted by wormwood it's really quite simple, mr. blofeld. with the Nf3 you haven't really declined anything, you're just postponing exd6 or losing the tempo capturing e5 and Bd6 chasing the knight back to f3. still from accepted, black gets what he wanted.
after Nc3 black capturing dxe5 doesn't pose a threat, as the e5 can't advance to e4 threatening the knight, because th to join them.
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Lol, it is vewy wevy wevy inweresting Goldfinger but black has some plans of his own, none of which involve an immediate retaking of the pawn. We are gambiteer, we sacrifice material for development, material is of little concern, whites e pawn is not going anywhere, therefore we develop, Nc6, our bishop shall come to either g4 willing to exchange itself for the f3 knight further putting pressure on whites dark squares and especially the weakened diagonal, failing that we can go to f5 pressurising the weak c2 pawn, for our c6 knight can come very quickly to b4, if we can castle long we get pressure down the soon to be half open d file, our rooks can come to the centre very quickly, we are happy and all the time we are fighting white for initiative, one mistake and he walks the plank!
Originally posted by robbie carrobie Lol, it is vewy wevy wevy inweresting Goldfinger but black has some plans of his own, none of which involve an immediate retaking of the pawn. We are gambiteer, we sacrifice material for development, material is of little concern, whites e pawn is not going anywhere, therefore we develop, Nc6, our bishop shall come to either g4 willing to exchange it ...[text shortened]... happy and all the time we are fighting white for initiative, one mistake and he walks the plank!
for as long as black doesn't take on e5, he's only managed to block all his 3 kingside pieces in. pinning the f3-knight doesn't threaten anything but helping white to develop his pieces. castling queenside behind in development invites a direct attack. Bf5 gets hit with e4.
sure anything can happen, but in the opening white has no worries while black has many problems to solve. and white can even snatch the pawn anytime.
Originally posted by wormwood for as long as black doesn't take on e5, he's only managed to block all his 3 kingside pieces in. pinning the f3-knight doesn't threaten anything but helping white to develop his pieces. castling queenside behind in development invites a direct attack. Bf5 gets hit with e4.
sure anything can happen, but in the opening white has no worries while black has many problems to solve. and white can even snatch the pawn anytime.
oh we shall take on e5, but we shall develop our queenside first, soon as that knight hits f3 its a target for it protects the dark squares, plus in order to develop your kings bishop you must play e3 pinning the unfortunate knight, we are planning on castling long anyway, we have no problems other than to sit back and enjoy the panorama. If white snatches the pawn we thank him for helping us develop with tempo 😛
Originally posted by robbie carrobie oh we shall take on e5, but we shall develop our queenside first, soon as that knight hits f3 its a target for it protects the dark squares, plus in order to develop your kings bishop you must play e3 pinning the unfortunate knight, we are planning on castling long anyway, we have no problems other than to sit back and enjoy the panorama 😛
e3?? e4 of course, a killer move. black has nothing, NOTHING, mwahahahahaa! 🙂