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  1. 30 Oct '16 10:39 / 2 edits
    I am not a very strong player, perhaps 1525 here, but it's mildly amusing that I've won no less than 3 of my last 4 games because my opponents insist on playing these "correspondence" games like blitz chess. I typically take 2-3 days to ponder a move, while my opponents churn out moves at the rate of 4-5 a day, and make a lot of mistakes in the process of doing so. This has been wonderful for my ego, but it inflates my rating. Do all the players here move so fast??
  2. Donation ketchuplover
    G.O.A.T.
    30 Oct '16 11:02
    Originally posted by mchill
    I am not a very strong player, perhaps 1525 here, but it's mildly amusing that I've won no less than 3 of my last 4 games because my opponents insist on playing these "correspondence" games like blitz chess. I typically take 2-3 days to ponder a move, while my opponents churn out moves at the rate of 4-5 a day, and make a lot of mistakes in the process of doi ...[text shortened]... has been wonderful for my ego, but it inflates my rating. Do all the players here move so fast??
    Do they have a lot of active games?
  3. 30 Oct '16 11:05 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by mchill
    I am not a very strong player, perhaps 1525 here, but it's mildly amusing that I've won no less than 3 of my last 4 games because my opponents insist on playing these "correspondence" games like blitz chess. I typically take 2-3 days to ponder a move, while my opponents churn out moves at the rate of 4-5 a day, and make a lot of mistakes in the process of doi ...[text shortened]... has been wonderful for my ego, but it inflates my rating. Do all the players here move so fast??
    Did you use some of old tricks: coughing to their faces or drumming with coffee spoon on the cup?
  4. 30 Oct '16 18:52
    It's usually because of the number of games they have. However, you may say that you are not strong. This might be true OTT, but playing correspondence is different. You might be strong correspondence player.
  5. 31 Oct '16 01:05 / 1 edit
    I like to play fast. Sometimes I don't make a move the first time I look at the board but most times I do. The most frustrating is when I see a move I want to make but then see it is a terrible move so I close the window. I open up the board the next day and immediately play the move I knew was wrong the day before! Submit resign.
  6. Subscriber Paul Leggett
    Chess Librarian
    31 Oct '16 01:56 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by mchill
    I am not a very strong player, perhaps 1525 here, but it's mildly amusing that I've won no less than 3 of my last 4 games because my opponents insist on playing these "correspondence" games like blitz chess. I typically take 2-3 days to ponder a move, while my opponents churn out moves at the rate of 4-5 a day, and make a lot of mistakes in the process of doi ...[text shortened]... has been wonderful for my ego, but it inflates my rating. Do all the players here move so fast??
    I don't think I am reading this correctly.

    Your opponents may be churning out 4-5 moves a day, but they obviously aren't turning out 4-5 moves a day against you- they can only make one, and then they have to wait for you to move.

    And if we assume that you meant "4 or 5 moves a day" in other games against other opponents, it's not clear that those moves or games have any real impact on their games against you.

    I have some retired friends on the site (some are also "real world" friends), and I envy the time they have available to commit to the game.

    Some clarity on the original post will clear this up, I am sure.
  7. 05 Nov '16 09:55
    Originally posted by Paul Leggett
    I don't think I am reading this correctly.

    Your opponents may be churning out 4-5 moves a day, but they obviously aren't turning out 4-5 moves a day against you- they can only make one, and then they have to wait for you to move.

    And if we assume that you meant "4 or 5 moves a day" in other games against other opponents, it's not clear th ...[text shortened]... lable to commit to the game.

    Some clarity on the original post will clear this up, I am sure.
    And if we assume that you meant "4 or 5 moves a day" in other games against other opponents, it's not clear that those moves or games have any real impact on their games against you.

    Yes, you are correct. They play 4-5 moves a day in other games (sorry for the confusion) but while I take 2-3 days to move, my opponents come back with their moves in 3-5 min. This is fine with me, but I wonder if these folks might want to skip correspondence chess, and just play blitz. Call me a perfectionist, but I don't like winning games at the 1500 - 1600 level because my opponents blunder away pieces, or leave themselves wide open for forks, or easy mates. (Not to worry though, I'll change my tune here when I start losing!)
  8. Subscriber sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    05 Nov '16 13:12
    Originally posted by mchill
    And if we assume that you meant "4 or 5 moves a day" in other games against other opponents, it's not clear that those moves or games have any real impact on their games against you.

    Yes, you are correct. They play 4-5 moves a day in other games (sorry for the confusion) but while I take 2-3 days to move, my opponents come back with their moves in 3-5 min ...[text shortened]... forks, or easy mates. (Not to worry though, I'll change my tune here when I start losing!)
    Seems like you are reading too much into this. You have finished only 6 games. Start criticizing when you have 60 under your belt. Your highest rated player is only 1400 or so and you can take it to the bank when you start against the 1800 crowd and up, they won't be making easily detected blunders.
  9. Subscriber 64squaresofpain On Vacation
    The drunk knight
    05 Nov '16 14:43
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Seems like you are reading too much into this. You have finished only 6 games. Start criticizing when you have 60 under your belt. Your highest rated player is only 1400 or so and you can take it to the bank when you start against the 1800 crowd and up, they won't be making easily detected blunders.
    Well, sometimes anyway

    I reckon I've just made 10 moves in the last hour, guaranteed at least one of them was not best!
  10. Subscriber Ragwortonline
    Ex Duris Gloria
    05 Nov '16 16:46
    Originally posted by mchill
    And if we assume that you meant "4 or 5 moves a day" in other games against other opponents, it's not clear that those moves or games have any real impact on their games against you.

    Yes, you are correct. They play 4-5 moves a day in other games (sorry for the confusion) but while I take 2-3 days to move, my opponents come back with their moves in 3-5 min ...[text shortened]... forks, or easy mates. (Not to worry though, I'll change my tune here when I start losing!)
    Although some players have ratings elsewhere the RHP ratings pool cannot be compared to any other site or organization so when you find your level here it will presumably be above the one where pieces are blundered routinely.

    You can never assume that because an opponent moves rapidly it is not a good move. Conditional moves have always been a part of correspondence chess and can be used here both as "play from opening" and programmed in advance. Whilst you have been cogitating on your move for three days your opponent may have looked at the position, made his plans and programmed a response to your likely moves. That saves him forgetting his ideas while you were dithering.

    It's also worth considering why opponents may move quite quickly on a CC site. Good players will begin to encounter more and more computer use the higher they go and may conclude that it is not worth hours of analysis competing against them. If you are in an unpopular timezone it may suit you to gather a larger number of games to play through when you come on line. Many positions are "routine" and can be played through rapidly yet the occasional position will intrigue and more time can be spent. Some people don't like blitz but are happy to move at OTB speeds without going the whole hog on analysis or research. And so on.

    It is my belief that the greater one is concerned with more than the 16 pieces and one clock that is given to us at the start of each game the more irritated with antics one becomes and the less you will enjoy playing. Of course you may be one who needs the chemicals associated with righteous anger coursing through your veins to play well - in which case carry on!
  11. 05 Nov '16 17:20
    Originally posted by Paul Leggett
    I don't think I am reading this correctly.

    Your opponents may be churning out 4-5 moves a day, but they obviously aren't turning out 4-5 moves a day against you- they can only make one, and then they have to wait for you to move.

    And if we assume that you meant "4 or 5 moves a day" in other games against other opponents, it's not clear th ...[text shortened]... lable to commit to the game.

    Some clarity on the original post will clear this up, I am sure.
    If he is just making one move a day while his opponents are making 4 or 5 and he is still winning his opponents must be really bad.
  12. Subscriber sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    05 Nov '16 19:40
    Originally posted by 64squaresofpain
    Well, sometimes anyway

    I reckon I've just made 10 moves in the last hour, guaranteed at least one of them was not best!
    Sure but not against a 1600 player. He would not know it was a blunder and you move away from it and go 'whew'
  13. Subscriber 64squaresofpain On Vacation
    The drunk knight
    06 Nov '16 16:26
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Sure but not against a 1600 player. He would not know it was a blunder and you move away from it and go 'whew'
    To be fair I've had plenty of them
    Only yesterday an opponent of mine missed a combination to win a pawn, that was certainly a "whew" moment.
  14. Subscriber venda
    Dave
    06 Nov '16 17:38
    Originally posted by 64squaresofpain
    To be fair I've had plenty of them
    Only yesterday an opponent of mine missed a combination to win a pawn, that was certainly a "whew" moment.
    Hope that wasn't me Zak!!
    With the moving fast and blundering scenario,I sometimes find that if I have something else planned which is time critical (like catching a bus for example) I'll rush a move before I log off and go and get ready.
    These are often the occasions where I make a bad move.
    The other scenario is when i'm distracted.
    The answer is self dicipline and knowing when to log off