1. Standard memberRed Night
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    09 Dec '07 20:00
    The Wilkes Barre is quite strong. I will play the Black side against anyone.
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    09 Dec '07 21:28
    Originally posted by ih8sens
    Okay fine. I hereby (love that word) challenge the entire forum to a traxler thematic.

    I play black... lets see what the whole forum put together can do against me in this line.

    Take it or shut up. (Rahim lives! 😉
    I am part of the forum remember...you don't seem to have very good luck against me...>=D
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    09 Dec '07 23:46
    Originally posted by tomtom232
    ??? are u hi right now?
    no, he's just straight, here, I'll translate for you, since it's obviously a language that you don't understand. He means to say: "no time to play dweebs like you"
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    10 Dec '07 15:26
    Originally posted by tomtom232
    I am part of the forum remember...you don't seem to have very good luck against me...>=D
    that's 99% because you are smart enough to stay out of the traxler lines 😛.
  5. Standard membernajdorfslayer
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    10 Dec '07 18:19
    Originally posted by ih8sens
    that's 99% because you are smart enough to stay out of the traxler lines 😛.
    I agree most guys who slag off the Traxler wouldn't dare play it OTB against a well prepeared opponent............and if they did they would probably get absolutely hammered!!
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    10 Dec '07 18:431 edit
    Originally posted by najdorfslayer
    I agree most guys who slag off the Traxler wouldn't dare play it OTB against a well prepeared opponent............and if they did they would probably get absolutely hammered!!
    Actually the opposite. Certainly at higher levels, if you know your opponent is a Traxler player and you have time to prepare, most players will be more likely to play Italian (3.Bc4), even if it isn't their normal opening. And why? Because objectively it's just good for white, and no amount of bluster or wishful thinking on the part of Traxler aficionados can alter this inconvenient fact. As a Two Knights Defence player myself I really wish the Traxler were sound, but it ain't (or at least black doesn't get anything like adequate compensation for the pawn), so there you are!
  7. Standard memberchessisvanity
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    10 Dec '07 18:46
    THE TRAXLER SUCKS!! 😛
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    10 Dec '07 19:38
    Originally posted by chessisvanity
    THE TRAXLER SUCKS!! 😛
    You suck
  9. Donation!~TONY~!
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    10 Dec '07 19:51
    I enjoy / hate these discussions at the same time. I don't think anyone on this forum has ever posted a bust to the Traxler, or even close. There was a little back and forth in some New In Chess Yearbooks (a quarterly book that comes out outlining new opening developments), with Martin De Zeuw trying to refute the Traxler, and readers responding to his lines and finding new resources. I would encourage anyone to post a line that conclusively leaves Black worse, else, don't go around spreading "the fact" (read as "your opinion"😉 that this line or that is busted. It's silly, and makes you look stupid.
  10. Standard memberchessisvanity
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    10 Dec '07 19:57
    here's a line for ya....

    THE TRAXLER SUCKS!!

    you suck too mad mac macmad
  11. Standard memberKorch
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    10 Dec '07 19:581 edit
    Originally posted by !~TONY~!
    I enjoy / hate these discussions at the same time. I don't think anyone on this forum has ever posted a bust to the Traxler, or even close. There was a little back and forth in some New In Chess Yearbooks (a quarterly book that comes out outlining new opening developments), with Martin De Zeuw trying to refute the Traxler, and readers responding to his line "your opinion"😉 that this line or that is busted. It's silly, and makes you look stupid.
    Well said. Most "refutors" of unusual openings cant show particular lines - they can only say nothing more than "It`s bad/sux " etc.
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    10 Dec '07 20:05
    Ok.
    Best line for white with (perhaps!) best play from black.
    I propose:

    1.e4...e5
    2.Nf3...Nc6
    3.Bc4...Nf6
    4.Ng5...Bc5
    5.Bxf7+...Ke7
    6.Bc4

    What's black's best 6th move?
  13. Standard memberchessisvanity
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    why would black play this crap?
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    10 Dec '07 20:291 edit
    Originally posted by chessisvanity
    here's a line for ya....

    THE TRAXLER SUCKS!!

    you suck too mad mac macmad
    You suck bigger than anything that has ever sucked

    Edit: Oh...and I stole your crisps too
  15. Standard memberKorch
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    10 Dec '07 20:32
    Originally posted by Squelchbelch
    Ok.
    Best line for white with (perhaps!) best play from black.
    I propose:

    1.e4...e5
    2.Nf3...Nc6
    3.Bc4...Nf6
    4.Ng5...Bc5
    5.Bxf7+...Ke7
    6.Bc4

    What's black's best 6th move?
    [fen]r1bq3r/ppppk1pp/2n2n2/2b1p1N1/2B1P3/8/PPPP1PPP/RNBQK2R b KQ - 0 6[/fen]
    6...Rf8
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