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    23 Dec '07 15:00
    Originally posted by HurricaneConway125
    I play Nf3 because it stops the annoying Qh4+
    Same here.
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    23 Dec '07 16:55
    Originally posted by najdorfslayer
    But surely after White play Nf3 Black has to move his queen again. Is placing the king on f1 worth moving the queen twice in the opening?
    Quite possibly. The queen can drop back to h6, which is quite a good square for it (protects f4 and enables the possible Nf6-h5 manoeuvre). Also the king doesn't really want to be on f1. The point I'm making is that 3...Qh4+ may be underrated; many of the resulting positions are pretty unclear.
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    23 Dec '07 19:45
    1.e4...e5
    2.f4...exf4
    3.Bc4...Qh4+
    4.Kf1...d5
    5.Bxd5...Ne7!
    6.Nc3...Nxd5
    7.Nxd5...Bd6
    Is a tough-nut for white to crack I think?
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    23 Dec '07 20:02
    Originally posted by Squelchbelch
    1.e4...e5
    2.f4...exf4
    3.Bc4...Qh4+
    4.Kf1...d5
    5.Bxd5...Ne7!
    6.Nc3...Nxd5
    7.Nxd5...Bd6
    Is a tough-nut for white to crack I think?
    [fen]rnb1k2r/ppp2ppp/3b4/3N4/4Pp1q/8/PPPP2PP/R1BQ1KNR w kq - 0 8[/fen]
    8.d4 with the idea of 9.e5 (also against 9...c6 and 9...f6) looks pretty good for white.
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    23 Dec '07 20:06
    Originally posted by Northern Lad
    That's certainly the accepted theoretical position, but actually I'm not so sure. I do think 3...Qh4+ may be better than its reputation.
    Yeah, I think the toughest variation is with 3...d5 and 4...Qh4+ ...I think. I can't quite remember, I haven't played it in a long time.
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    23 Dec '07 20:10
    Originally posted by vipiu
    heh, I thought they play very often Queen's Gambit 🙂...Or that doesn't count?
    Well it's not actually a gambit.
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    23 Dec '07 20:321 edit
    Game 4138670

    Yah I know Raf8??

    And try 12. ... Qh4+! instead of RxP .. I had that game in the bag 🙁.

    It's games like this that keep me coming back. Sound or not my results are good enough (and judging by the strength of my opponent, will continue to be good enough) to keep playing the Traxler.
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    23 Dec '07 21:22
    Originally posted by cmsMaster
    Yeah, I think the toughest variation is with 3...d5 and 4...Qh4+ ...I think. I can't quite remember, I haven't played it in a long time.
    I personally think that black probably does best to play 4...Qh4+ if white plays 4.exd5 and 4...Nf6 if white plays 4.Bxd5.
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    24 Dec '07 01:56
    Originally posted by Northern Lad
    I personally think that black probably does best to play 4...Qh4+ if white plays 4.exd5 and 4...Nf6 if white plays 4.Bxd5.
    Yeah, sorry, I meant to clarify that. That is my opinion and I think that of most knowledgeable KG players.
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