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  1. Standard member HurricaneConway125
    SUPREMO OF SOMERSET
    21 Dec '07 12:17
    What is the main line of this, I played it the other night against quite a strong player at my chess club but didn't really know what I was doing and eventually lost the game. So after 1e4e5 2Nf3Nc6 3Bc4Nf6 4Ng5Bc5 5Nxf7Bxf2 what should I have done or do in the future?
  2. 21 Dec '07 12:49
    Originally posted by HurricaneConway125
    What is the main line of this, I played it the other night against quite a strong player at my chess club but didn't really know what I was doing and eventually lost the game. So after 1e4e5 2Nf3Nc6 3Bc4Nf6 4Ng5Bc5 5Nxf7Bxf2 what should I have done or do in the future?
    There's just been a long thread "Traxler blows", which you might care to take a look at.
  3. Standard member HurricaneConway125
    SUPREMO OF SOMERSET
    21 Dec '07 12:50
    Originally posted by Northern Lad
    There's just been a long thread "Traxler blows", which you might care to take a look at.
    I did briefly but couldn't find anything specifically about this line, could you give me a page reference?
  4. 21 Dec '07 14:18
    Originally posted by HurricaneConway125
    What is the main line of this, I played it the other night against quite a strong player at my chess club but didn't really know what I was doing and eventually lost the game. So after 1e4e5 2Nf3Nc6 3Bc4Nf6 4Ng5Bc5 5Nxf7Bxf2 what should I have done or do in the future?
    Kf1

    Game 4262472

    Here's how the game should unfold up to move 8
  5. 21 Dec '07 14:21
    Originally posted by HurricaneConway125
    I did briefly but couldn't find anything specifically about this line, could you give me a page reference?
    Were you white or black? If white, you should have played 5.Bxf7+. There's lots on that in the previous thread.
  6. Standard member HurricaneConway125
    SUPREMO OF SOMERSET
    21 Dec '07 17:23
    Originally posted by Northern Lad
    Were you white or black? If white, you should have played 5.Bxf7+. There's lots on that in the previous thread.
    I played black and i think my opponent took the bishop after ...Bxf2...
  7. 21 Dec '07 17:48
    You could ask Ih8sens, he plays it alot and is the main proponent of it on this place. And white taking the bishop on f2 is generally bad for white.
  8. 21 Dec '07 17:55
    Originally posted by HurricaneConway125
    I played black and i think my opponent took the bishop after ...Bxf2...
    Here's the simplest idea for black after white takes the Bf2:
    Game 3741863
  9. Standard member bannedplayer306509
    Best Loser
    21 Dec '07 22:15
    Originally posted by Leaadas
    You could ask Ih8sens, he plays it alot and is the main proponent of it on this place. And white taking the bishop on f2 is generally bad for white.
    heheh thanks
    gotta give northern lad some credit though.. he proposed a line in the Traxler Blows thread that is at least equalizing. At the moment it seems to give white about a half pawn advantage but i'm still messing with the line... figure i'll be able to find an equalizing line.
  10. 22 Dec '07 00:09
    1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Ng5 Bc5 5.Nxf7 Bxf2+ 6.Kxf2 Nxe4+ 7.Kg1 Qh4 8.g3 Nxg3 9.Nxh8 d5 10.Qf3 Qd4+ 11.Qe3 Nxh1 12.Bb5 Qg4+ 13.Kxh1 Bf5 =
  11. Standard member bannedplayer306509
    Best Loser
    22 Dec '07 00:25 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by jonrothwell
    1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Ng5 Bc5 5.Nxf7 Bxf2+ 6.Kxf2 Nxe4+ 7.Kg1 Qh4 8.g3 Nxg3 9.Nxh8 d5 10.Qf3 Qd4+ 11.Qe3 Nxh1 12.Bb5 Qg4+ 13.Kxh1 Bf5 =
    edited on the grounds of me being stupid.
  12. 22 Dec '07 00:43
    Originally posted by ih8sens
    you assert that so forcefully .

    9. ... Nxh1 is not best. Just about anything else works though Try again .
    Like what?
    His suggestion was 9...d5 & that line looks a tough one for black.
  13. Standard member bannedplayer306509
    Best Loser
    22 Dec '07 00:46 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by Squelchbelch
    Like what?
    His suggestion was 9...d5 & that line looks a tough one for black.
    ooops lol meant Nxh1 was best there...

    9. ... Nxh1
    10. Qe2, b5!? (my preference. d6 works too)
    11. Bf7+, Ke7
    12. Kxh1 (Nc3 is less greedy.), Bb7
    13. Bd5, Rxh8
    14. d3, Rf8
    15. Nc3, b4

    9. ... d5 is also good for black... though relatively unclear.

    ... that's a whole different game.
  14. 22 Dec '07 00:56 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by ih8sens
    ooops lol meant Nxh1 was best there...
    9...Nxh1
    10.Bf7+...Ke7
    11.Kxh1
    Bearing in mind this is in white's inferior 5.Nxf7?! line, this is pretty solid stuff eh?

  15. Standard member bannedplayer306509
    Best Loser
    22 Dec '07 00:57
    Originally posted by Squelchbelch
    9...Nxh1
    10.Bf7+...Ke7
    11.Kxh1
    Bearing in mind this is in white's inferior 5.Nxf7?! line, this is pretty solid stuff eh?
    check my edit above.

    but yah.. pretty solid for white but you gotta remember that this is still pretty well drawing at worst for black.. and pretty darn hard to stay in a safe zone for white.