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  1. 29 Aug '12 16:36
    By my count there are 6 undefeated players in the top 300 at RHP at the moment. Also 7 players with only 1 loss.

    Is this uncommon and does it mean the number of good players has increased?
  2. 29 Aug '12 16:47
    No. It means the rest of us have got worse.
  3. Subscriber thaughbaer
    Duckfinder General
    29 Aug '12 18:05
    We've had topics about Ian Maver before. The second highest guy on the list is this fella...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Kozlov

    Seriously would you beat him ?
  4. Standard member RJHinds
    The Near Genius
    04 Sep '12 00:00 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by thaughbaer
    We've had topics about Ian Maver before. The second highest guy on the list is this fella...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Kozlov

    Seriously would you beat him ?
    Des he know how to play chess?
  5. 04 Sep '12 20:33
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Des he know how to play chess?
    He could play whatever rules he wanted - I wouldn't argue.
  6. Subscriber thaughbaer
    Duckfinder General
    04 Sep '12 21:02
    Originally posted by aquatabby
    He could play whatever rules he wanted - I wouldn't argue.
    Good call. Never argue with a man wearing white Speedos.
  7. Subscriber 64squaresofpain On Vacation
    The drunk knight
    12 Sep '12 14:24
    Undefeated players, yah

    I have recently had 2 games (as both black and white) with an undefeated player... ok he's only completed 9 games up to now (all wins), and with the rating of over 1600 i'm thinking yeah, the guy's good.

    But it made me think a little. Yes, it's required in the terms and agreements that you are never to use chess engines to "help" you in your games... but, in correspondence games what is to stop people using them? Most of us are here to play chess, but I can't help but feel some of us are here to win no matter what the cost (I, like many i'm sure, personally think it's pointless to have a computer win your games)

    Is there a refined way to tell if someone is using a chess engine? I'd like to know
  8. 12 Sep '12 15:35
    If there was a 100% way to determine an engine user then
    CC chess would be a lot more fun and remove doubts.

    There is a match up system, where a players moves are run against a
    computer to see how high the percentage is.
    This must be done over a period of time and with x amount of games.

    It's good but is it sound?
    Yes when it is very obvious.
    Not too sure if you are investigating a known very very good player.

    Another method is to read what they say in posts in the chess forum.

    Although a lot users have become wise to this and never post nor have a profile.
    I would not take this as fact the guy is a user nor the fact they have not yet lost a game.

    Some however do.
    If it's nothing but an endless stream of total garbage and poor advice and
    the player has a grade of say 2200+ then you can have your suspicions.

    Why do they do it?

    It may not be all about win, win, win.

    Suppose you wanted to add some clout in another forum.
    For example let us pick at random the Religious Forum.
    Why not use a box to get up to say...2200+ .
    Then the lads on here (and remember this is a chess site) will think you
    know what you are talking about because you have a high grade.
    Just a theory.
  9. 12 Sep '12 15:46
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    If there was a 100% way to determine an engine user then
    CC chess would be a lot more fun and remove doubts.

    There is a match up system, where a players moves are run against a
    computer to see how high the percentage is.
    This must be done over a period of time and with x amount of games.

    It's good but is it sound?
    Yes when it is very obvious. ...[text shortened]... will think you
    know what you are talking about because you have a high grade.
    Just a theory.
    Nice hypothetical examples.
  10. 12 Sep '12 19:57
    Originally posted by Rank outsider
    Nice hypothetical examples.
    Let's call this hypotherical user, JRStags
  11. Subscriber 64squaresofpain On Vacation
    The drunk knight
    13 Sep '12 03:31
    Originally posted by greenpawn34

    There is a match up system, where a players moves are run against a
    computer to see how high the percentage is.
    This must be done over a period of time and with x amount of games.

    It's good but is it sound?
    Yes when it is very obvious.
    Not too sure if you are investigating a known very very good player.

    Thanks for your reply.

    My suspicions over the player in question are merely small... maybe I was just simply outplayed, I mean when it comes to playing chess online i'm still a greenhorn..... greenpawn.

    I will keep in mind the possibility of running moves against an engine (I'm looking to invest in one, purely for the sake of analysis of course)

    If I ever find a suspiciously high match, then I should perhaps forward my findings to the appropriate person, yes?

    Thanks once again... it's just something about players being undefeated bugs me lol
    I mean in the games, it just seemed to me like he played the BEST move possible EVERY time....

    I hope i'm wrong, and he (she?) was just THAT good...
  12. Standard member RJHinds
    The Near Genius
    14 Sep '12 12:36
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    If there was a 100% way to determine an engine user then
    CC chess would be a lot more fun and remove doubts.

    There is a match up system, where a players moves are run against a
    computer to see how high the percentage is.
    This must be done over a period of time and with x amount of games.

    It's good but is it sound?
    Yes when it is very obvious. ...[text shortened]... will think you
    know what you are talking about because you have a high grade.
    Just a theory.
    You think you got a good theory going there don't you, mister smarty pants?
  13. 14 Sep '12 12:40
    Originally posted by thaughbaer
    Good call. Never argue with a man wearing white Speedos.
    Hear hear!
  14. Standard member kingshill
    Mr Ring Rusty
    15 Sep '12 10:45
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    If there was a 100% way to determine an engine user then
    CC chess would be a lot more fun and remove doubts.

    There is a match up system, where a players moves are run against a
    computer to see how high the percentage is.
    This must be done over a period of time and with x amount of games.

    It's good but is it sound?
    Yes when it is very obvious. ...[text shortened]... will think you
    know what you are talking about because you have a high grade.
    Just a theory.
    ;-)
  15. Subscriber thaughbaer
    Duckfinder General
    15 Sep '12 12:00
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    You think you got a good theory going there don't you, mister smarty pants?
    Could you clarify whether this is the English or American interpretation of "pants" so that I may visualize your rebuttal correctly.