Undefeated players, yah
I have recently had 2 games (as both black and white) with an undefeated player... ok he's only completed 9 games up to now (all wins), and with the rating of over 1600 i'm thinking yeah, the guy's good.
But it made me think a little. Yes, it's required in the terms and agreements that you are never to use chess engines to "help" you in your games... but, in correspondence games what is to stop people using them? Most of us are here to play chess, but I can't help but feel some of us are here to win no matter what the cost (I, like many i'm sure, personally think it's pointless to have a computer win your games)
Is there a refined way to tell if someone is using a chess engine? I'd like to know
If there was a 100% way to determine an engine user then
CC chess would be a lot more fun and remove doubts.
There is a match up system, where a players moves are run against a
computer to see how high the percentage is.
This must be done over a period of time and with x amount of games.
It's good but is it sound?
Yes when it is very obvious.
Not too sure if you are investigating a known very very good player.
Another method is to read what they say in posts in the chess forum.
Although a lot users have become wise to this and never post nor have a profile.
I would not take this as fact the guy is a user nor the fact they have not yet lost a game.
Some however do.
If it's nothing but an endless stream of total garbage and poor advice and
the player has a grade of say 2200+ then you can have your suspicions.
Why do they do it?
It may not be all about win, win, win.
Suppose you wanted to add some clout in another forum.
For example let us pick at random the Religious Forum.
Why not use a box to get up to say...2200+ .
Then the lads on here (and remember this is a chess site) will think you
know what you are talking about because you have a high grade.
Just a theory.
Originally posted by greenpawn34Nice hypothetical examples.
If there was a 100% way to determine an engine user then
CC chess would be a lot more fun and remove doubts.
There is a match up system, where a players moves are run against a
computer to see how high the percentage is.
This must be done over a period of time and with x amount of games.
It's good but is it sound?
Yes when it is very obvious. ...[text shortened]... will think you
know what you are talking about because you have a high grade.
Just a theory.
Originally posted by greenpawn34Thanks for your reply.
There is a match up system, where a players moves are run against a
computer to see how high the percentage is.
This must be done over a period of time and with x amount of games.
It's good but is it sound?
Yes when it is very obvious.
Not too sure if you are investigating a known very very good player.
My suspicions over the player in question are merely small... maybe I was just simply outplayed, I mean when it comes to playing chess online i'm still a greenhorn..... greenpawn.
I will keep in mind the possibility of running moves against an engine (I'm looking to invest in one, purely for the sake of analysis of course)
If I ever find a suspiciously high match, then I should perhaps forward my findings to the appropriate person, yes?
Thanks once again... it's just something about players being undefeated bugs me lol
I mean in the games, it just seemed to me like he played the BEST move possible EVERY time....
I hope i'm wrong, and he (she?) was just THAT good...
Originally posted by greenpawn34You think you got a good theory going there don't you, mister smarty pants?
If there was a 100% way to determine an engine user then
CC chess would be a lot more fun and remove doubts.
There is a match up system, where a players moves are run against a
computer to see how high the percentage is.
This must be done over a period of time and with x amount of games.
It's good but is it sound?
Yes when it is very obvious. ...[text shortened]... will think you
know what you are talking about because you have a high grade.
Just a theory.
Originally posted by greenpawn34;-)
If there was a 100% way to determine an engine user then
CC chess would be a lot more fun and remove doubts.
There is a match up system, where a players moves are run against a
computer to see how high the percentage is.
This must be done over a period of time and with x amount of games.
It's good but is it sound?
Yes when it is very obvious. ...[text shortened]... will think you
know what you are talking about because you have a high grade.
Just a theory.