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watchyourbackrank vs PhySiQ - game 5

watchyourbackrank vs PhySiQ - game 5

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Originally posted by Shallow Blue
Yes, Skeeter, but we know what you are as well.

Richard
We = The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit?

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Originally posted by Pacifique
We = The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit?
Don't blaspheme. You're not intelligent enough to do so effectively.

Richard

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Originally posted by Shallow Blue
Don't blaspheme. You're not intelligent enough to do so effectively.

Richard
You are not in position to judge my intelligence.

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Originally posted by Pacifique
You are not in position to judge my intelligence.
All I need is your forum posts. They are enough.

Either you're skeeter, which is bad, or you're trying to be skeeter, which is worse. Either way, stop trying to be more offensive than you can manage. It doesn't argue for your position very well.

Richard

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Originally posted by Shallow Blue
All I need is your forum posts. They are enough.

Either you're skeeter, which is bad, or you're trying to be skeeter, which is worse. Either way, stop trying to be more offensive than you can manage. It doesn't argue for your position very well.

Richard
I don't know what you're on about??? Pacifique is obviously nothing like Skeeter.

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Originally posted by Shallow Blue
All I need is your forum posts. They are enough.

Either you're skeeter, which is bad, or you're trying to be skeeter, which is worse. Either way, stop trying to be more offensive than you can manage. It doesn't argue for your position very well.

Richard
I`m not so foolish to defend charlatans and cheaters, at least.

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Originally posted by tomtom232
I don't know what you're on about??? Pacifique is obviously nothing like Skeeter.
The personal hate campaigns are quite similar, at the very least.

Richard

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Originally posted by Shallow Blue
The personal hate campaigns are quite similar, at the very least.

Richard
What about your personal hate campaign against me? Or do you think cheats & charlatans should be tolerated here?

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could be interesting to check the game with engine

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Originally posted by watchyourbackrank
could be interesting to check the game with engine
Your opponent made his moves fast?

upd. More interesting would be to check his games, finished before he was accused.

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[Event "Challenge"]
[Site "http://www.redhotpawn.com"]
[Date "2012.02.05"]
[Round "?"]
[White "watchyourbackrank"]
[Black "PhySiQ"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "E18"]
[WhiteElo "1917"]
[BlackElo "1962"]
[PlyCount "109"]
[EventDate "2012.??.??"]

{moves analysed for 30 seconds each with Stockfish 1.9.1 engine} 1. d4 e6 2. c4 Nf6 3. Nf3 b6 4. g3 Bb7 5. Bg2 Be7 6. Nc3 O-O
7. O-O Ne4 8. Bd2 f5 9. Qc2 Nxd2 10. Qxd2 Bf6 11. Rad1 d6 12. Rfe1 Nd7 13. e4 {goes out of book after this move}
fxe4 {1st} 14. Nxe4 {1st} h6 {5th} 15. Re2 {NA} Qe7 {1st} 16. Rde1 {1st} Rae8 {
NA} 17. d5 {1st} Be5 {1st} 18. Nxe5 {3rd} Nxe5 {2nd} 19. b3 {3rd} exd5 {1st}
20. Nc3 {1st} Qf7 {3rd} 21. f4 {2nd} d4 {2nd} 22. Nd5 {2nd} d3 {1st} 23. Re3 {
1st} Ng6 {2nd} 24. Qxd3 {2nd} Rxe3 {1st} 25. Qxe3 {1st} Qd7 {4th} 26. Qd3 {1st}
Bxd5 {1st} 27. Bxd5+ {1st} Kh7 {1st} 28. Re6 {NA} Rf6 {1st} 29. Re2 {1st} Kh8 {
1st} 30. Qe4 {1st} a6 {1st} 31. h4 {NA} Qg4 {1st} 32. Kh2 {2nd} Nf8 {2nd} 33.
a4 {NA} c6 {1st} 34. Qf3 {1st} Qxf3 {1st} 35. Bxf3 {1st} g5 {1st} 36. Bxc6 {1st
} gxf4 {1st} 37. gxf4 {1st} Rxf4 {2nd} 38. Kg3 {1st} Rd4 {1st} 39. Re3 {NA} Ng6
{1st} 40. Bb7 {3rd} a5 {1st} 41. h5 {NA} Ne5 {1st} 42. Be4 {1st} Kg7 {1st} 43.
Kf4 {1st} Kf6 {1st} 44. Rg3 {1st} Rd2 {2nd} 45. Rg8 {2nd} Rh2 {1st} 46. Rf8+ {
3rd} Ke7 {1st} 47. Rb8 {1st} Rh4+ {1st} 48. Ke3 {1st} Rh3+ {1st} 49. Kd4 {2nd}
Rxb3 {1st} 50. Rh8 {2nd} Ra3 {3rd} 51. Rxh6 {1st} Rxa4 {1st} 52. Kd5 {1st} Rxc4
{1st} 53. Re6+ {2nd} Kf7 {2nd} 54. Rxd6 {1st} Rc6 {1st} 55. Rxc6 {2nd} 1/2-1/2

PhySiQ matches with Stockfish

Engine 1st choice 71% (30 of 42)
Engine 1st + 2nd choices 88% (37 of 42)
Engine 1st + 2nd + 3rd choices 93% (39 of 42)
Engine 1st + 2nd + 3rd + 4th choices 95% (40 of 42)
Engine 1st + 2nd + 3rd + 4th + 5th choices 98% (41 of 42)

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Originally posted by watchyourbackrank
[Event "Challenge"]
[Site "http://www.redhotpawn.com"]
[Date "2012.02.05"]
[Round "?"]
[White "watchyourbackrank"]
[Black "PhySiQ"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "E18"]
[WhiteElo "1917"]
[BlackElo "1962"]
[PlyCount "109"]
[EventDate "2012.??.??"]

{moves analysed for 30 seconds each with Stockfish 1.9.1 engine} 1. d4 e6 2. c4 Nf6 ...[text shortened]... % (40 of 42)
Engine 1st + 2nd + 3rd + 4th + 5th choices 98% (41 of 42)
That's very interesting. How do our other games work out Mr. backrank? What are your match rates in those games as well?

Interesting data to say the least.

Q

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Originally posted by PhySiQ
That's very interesting. How do our other games work out Mr. backrank? What are your match rates in those games as well?

Interesting data to say the least.

Q
haven't tested our other games (yet)

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[Event "Challenge"]
[Site "http://www.redhotpawn.com"]
[Date "2011.10.24"]
[Round "?"]
[White "PhySiQ"]
[Black "watchyourbackrank"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[WhiteElo "1962"]
[BlackElo "1917"]
[PlyCount "80"]
[EventDate "2011.??.??"]

{moves analysed for 30 seconds each with Stockfish 1.9.1 engine} 1. Nf3 g6 2.
g3 Bg7 3. Bg2 Nf6 4. c4 O-O 5. Nc3 d6 6. O-O e5 7. d4 exd4 8. Nxd4 Re8 9. Bg5
h6 {game out of book after this move} 10. Bf4 {1st} Nbd7 {4th} 11. Qc2 {3rd}
Nh5 {1st} 12. Be3 {1st} Ne5 {1st} 13. Qb3 {1st} Ng4 {1st} 14. Nc2 {1st} Nxe3 {
1st} 15. Nxe3 {1st} c6 {2nd} 16. Rad1 {1st} Qc7 {4th} 17. Ne4 {1st} Re6 {2nd}
18. Qd3 {1st} Bf8 {1st} 19. b4 {4th} f5 {1st} 20. Nc3 {1st} Bd7 {5th} 21. b5 {
NA} Rae8 {1st} 22. bxc6 {4th} bxc6 {1st} 23. Rb1 {2nd} Nf6 {2nd} 24. Nc2 {3rd}
Bg7 {4th} 25. Nd4 {1st} R6e7 {1st} 26. Rb3 {3rd} Ng4 {1st} 27. e3 {1st} Ne5 {
4th} 28. Qc2 {1st} Qa5 {2nd} 29. Nce2 {1st} Qa6 {2nd} 30. Nf4 {1st} Kh7 {1st}
31. Rfb1 {NA} Rf7 {4th} 32. Rb7 {1st} Ref8 {4th} 33. h4 {1st} g5 {4th} 34. Rxd7
{2nd} Nxd7 {1st} 35. Nfe6 {2nd} Bxd4 {1st} 36. Nxf8+ {1st} Nxf8 {1st} 37. exd4
{1st} gxh4 {1st} 38. d5 {2nd} c5 {1st} 39. g4 {2nd} Qc8 {2nd} 40. gxf5 {1st}
Nd7 {5th} 1/2-1/2

PhySiQ engine matches

1st engine choice 61% (19 of 31)
1st + 2nd choice 77% (24 of 31)
1st + 2nd + 3rd 87% (27 of 31)
1st + 2nd + 3rd + 4th 94% (29 of 31)
1st + 2nd + 3rd + 4th + 5th 94% (29 of 31)

watchyourbackrank engine matches

1st engine choice 52% (16 of 31)
1st + 2nd choice 71% (22 of 31)
1st + 2nd + 3rd 71% (22 of 31)
1st + 2nd + 3rd + 4th 94% (29 of 31)
1st + 2nd + 3rd + 4th + 5th 100% (31 of 31)

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Originally posted by watchyourbackrank
[Event "Challenge"]
[Site "http://www.redhotpawn.com"]
[Date "2011.10.24"]
[Round "?"]
[White "PhySiQ"]
[Black "watchyourbackrank"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[WhiteElo "1962"]
[BlackElo "1917"]
[PlyCount "80"]
[EventDate "2011.??.??"]

{moves analysed for 30 seconds each with Stockfish 1.9.1 engine} 1. Nf3 g6 2.
g3 Bg7 3. Bg2 Nf6 4. c4 O-O 5. ...[text shortened]... 94% (29 of 31)
1st + 2nd + 3rd + 4th + 5th 100% (31 of 31)
I find these correlations pretty meaningless. In a corres game, 90% for strong moves can easily be possible and in no way suspicious. Being 'given' a single variation can make all the difference though. Much more telling is how someone plays; eg humanly converting into a slow won endgame for example or finding a complex but speedy win. Or even opening choice could be a factor.