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Gosh Robbie how can you lose interst in that game?
It's teeming with ideas and winning plans.
SG gave you where the game was lost, I'll show the clear missed win.
And it was not in the ending...
You are not crap, you just sat back and let technique take over.
Your head has been twisted and fed by that endless KIA thread. 😉
Never mind seeing all these lines where you could save this stupid game.
Whack him. Screw him into the ground. Frost him.
Everyone has been talking about converting an ending into a win and how
you never used your King. Even Trev33's cat has got into the act. 😉
This game does not go into an ending.
You can threaten him with an ending but why go that way when
all the middle game advantages are with White.
I want more.
Never trade down into an ending until you have wrung out every middle
game advantage you have. Let him have his ending but on YOUR terms.
And your terms must always be giving him as wretched a postion as possible.
This is where you played 30.Qa4.
And why are we taking de-centralising our chief attacking piece?
No good reason at all.
If you had a Russian trainer he would have poked out an eye with a blunt spoon.
Where are the Bishops pointing?
On what side of the board do you have a three to one pawn advantage?
...er...the Queenside.....
I think we need to remind ourselves of the final position
35 moves after the first diagram and those two pawns are still
where we last saw them. 🙁
35 moves ago that pawn on c4 was the only passed pawn on the board.
So much for passed pawns must be pushed.
30.a4! with a5 and b4 coming. Black is going to have to toss a piece
to stop these pawns.
Attack on the side you are the strongest thus making
him make moves on the side he is the weakest.
(and you won't need a King to see these boys home the Bishops will do very nicely).
And if he tries any nonsesne look what I have waiting for him.
"...who can help me like the endgame?"
You can by attacking in the Middle Game.
You played 30 Qa5? and he played 30...Bc8?
You took the Queens off with the meek 31.Qd2. Why? Now His King is hanging.
You have him on the Queenside and now the Kingside.
Why has nobody spotted the shots here?
The biggest blunder in the game was 21.Qd2? not taking full
advantage of the position.
You all sit there with your stupid haricuts nodding and agreeing
with each other and this position just sails past without comment.
Will you throw those poxy endgame books in the trash can and read
some bloody Paul Morphy and look at the tactics first.
Check all Checks.
Not ignore all checks and go into an ending so we can talk toot sweet
about active Kings.
You want an active King? I'll give you an active King.
My King does not leave g1 and still plays a part in mating Black.
(I'm that good I'll even wrap it up with a Bg2 mate for KIA guys).
I'll turn you lot into chess players if it's the very last thing I do.
Originally posted by VarenkaThis was in fact the case, why should i give up my two beautiful bishops for a crumby knight, fatal, absolutely fatal. Thanks so much for taking the time
[fen]3b4/5k1p/4p1p1/p3n3/2P5/1P2BB2/P4PPP/5K2[/fen]
White to play.
This is an instructive position that needs to be understood. So, White has a won position - nothing surprising there. But what is Black's most hopeful plan of a draw? I think it's to hope for an opposite coloured bishop ending, which are notorious for being drawn even with two extra ...[text shortened]... sed you to try too hard at maintaining the bishop pair and ultimately missing a tactic.
Originally posted by SwissGambitits brilliant, by this point my spirit had dissipated and i had given it up for lost, it never really occurred to me that i had real drawing chances. Thanks for taking the time.
[fen]3b4/5k1p/6p1/p3p3/2P1BBn1/1P6/P4PPP/5K2 w - - 0 38[/fen]
38.h3? was a mistake. Not only do you lose one of your extra pawns, but Black gets an opposite color Bishop ending. As already pointed out, those are extremely drawish. Instead, 38.Bg3 should have been played.
[fen]8/8/8/p1b5/2P1B2p/1P4kP/5p2/5K2 w - - 0 60[/fen]
Here's where the game was ...[text shortened]... just move his King [say, Ke2].
Black has no way to make progress, and the game is drawn.
Originally posted by trev33your cat! pah! my rabbit tosses up the pieces like a salad and they simply land in the right positions, her rating is 2300-2700 with rabbit treats!
my cat could've converted that endgame into victory. and he's only a 1250 rating... still not bad for a cat though. he was second in the regional cat championships.
Originally posted by greenpawn34its also very brilliant GP, but my back rank was weak, i was scared, yes i admit it, scared that i was going to get mated, so my reasoning was that with queens off the board my advantages would magnify themselves. Chess players should not be scared!
Gosh Robbie how can you lose interst in that game?
It's teeming with ideas and winning plans.
SG gave you where the game was lost, I'll show the clear missed win.
And it was not in the ending...
You are not crap, you just sat back and let technique take over.
Your head has been twisted and fed by that endless KIA thread. 😉
Never mind seeing ...[text shortened]... k it next to their pictures of Lara Croft. Note the White King cover h2.}[/pgn]
Originally posted by robbie carrobieJust out of curiosity, what was wrong with 16 Nxe6 forking queen and rook? If Q-e8 NxR, pawnx bishop, NxN, isn't white an exchange up?
thanks to all for taking the time, tomtom232, Eladar, Ragwort, Varenka, tharkesh, SwissGambit, trev33, trevs putty cat, gambit3, greenpawn34, i really appreciate it guys, thanks so much.
Originally posted by sonhouseyes i think so sonhouse but my idea was positional rather than tactical, to lumber black with two sets of isolated pawns. I cant remember if i saw the fork or not, its entirely possible that i missed it, so focused i was on my plan for isolating backs pawns.
Just out of curiosity, what was wrong with 16 Nxe6 forking queen and rook? If Q-e8 NxR, pawnx bishop, NxN, isn't white an exchange up?
Originally posted by greenpawn34whereas i want to thank you for this analysis, i just would like to mention, you are a bit harsh with people posting here. robbies thread question is a quite different one from 'please analyse the game' and it kind of naturally points to positions in an endgame - and how to get motivated playing it. of course your analysis is showing again what most of us miss (otherwise no point in posting), but even if he had not missed any of those chances and had arrived at this position via a 'sound' middle game, he still would have the problem of motivation for the endgame...
You all sit there with your stupid haricuts nodding and agreeing
with each other and this position just sails past without comment.
Hi Thar.
Sorry I don't do pats on the head and "...better luck next time."
If you want that then show your games to a primary school teacher.
He posted the whole game, not from where the ending began.
I can be very leniant with beginners but to an old trooper like
Robbie and some of the other guys.....They know what to expect.
Hi Robbie
Worrying about a back rank mate does not mean you are going to
get back rank mated. Here.
Why not play h3 instead of Qa5. What can he do?
It was looking at luft here that spun out a fantasy variation.
It was unsound but as you will see the idea was stored.
And the last note:
"OK it's stored for a rainy day." came into being after he played Bd8.
(see previous analysis.) Fantasy variations, wee trips up the garden path.
Try them, you will be surprised what lays hidden.
Hi Sonhouse.
Nothing wrong with 16.Nxe6 here.
I went shooting through the game heading for the diagram in V's post (good notes there).
After I saw the diagram I was wondering how on earth white lost this (looking
for blog material).
Just skipped through the game but never got past white's 30 move when
they old 'twinge' kicked in. ("something here.....something here...trick shots on..." ).
De-centrasing moves always prick up the ears.
Perhaps Robbie thought at first glance, as I did, Black was
getting two bits for the Rook after exf4?
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Originally posted by greenpawn34ahhh its all true! from trevs cat to my silly hairdo, meh, i bought the Mendis book,
Hi Thar.
Sorry I don't do pats on the head and "...better luck next time."
If you want that then show your games to a primary school teacher.
He posted the whole game, not from where the ending began.
I can be very leniant with beginners but to an old trooper like
Robbie and some of the other guys.....They know what to expect.
Hi Robbie
Worr ling pawns plus some ghosts White saw may have played it's part.}[/pgn]
from middle game to end game to see if i can get better and its strangely alluring,
there are worse mistakes than mine (well equally as bad) check this one from Lone
Pine 1980, two grandmasters, one Lev Alburt of the most sleaziest chess book
cover ever award, v our man with the real crazy hairdo, the bold Roman
Dzindzihashvili. The prize for winner was 15,000 American dollars, 10,670 dollars a
piece for a draw and 3940 for a loss. The position was as follows, white to play, two
moves to get out of time trouble. He has an extra pawn and three connected
passed pawns!
Mendis states, that all white has to do is play Nxb7? after 44...Kxb7 and the h pawn
will queen and white shall collect $15,000, what did white actually play, 44.Qd8? The
game continued as follows.