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Posers and Puzzles

Posers and Puzzles

  1. 30 Jul '08 00:38 / 1 edit
    Reach in a minimal number of moves a position in which no unit attacks or guards any other unit.

    The solution? don't ask me
  2. 30 Jul '08 07:46
    Originally posted by David113
    Reach in a minimal number of moves a position in which no unit attacks or guards any other unit.

    The solution? don't ask me
    Are you allowed to take units?
  3. Subscriber sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    30 Jul '08 08:27
    Originally posted by David113
    Reach in a minimal number of moves a position in which no unit attacks or guards any other unit.

    The solution? don't ask me
    Unit? is that a chess term? Can I assume you are talking about a chess position?
  4. Subscriber sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    30 Jul '08 08:30
    Originally posted by Thomaster
    Are you allowed to take units?
    If we are talking about chess, it would have to be after a number of takes. I don't think you can even set up a position with all 32 pieces on a chessboard where no piece attacks or defends another.
  5. 30 Jul '08 09:39
    the key problem with leaving all of the pieces on the board is that the queens + bishops + rooks all have long attacking capabilities, so i agree that it shuld be impossible with all pieces on the board
  6. 30 Jul '08 13:20 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Thomaster
    Are you allowed to take units?
    Yes. I believe you must take at least 4 units (even if you don't try to find the shortest game), i. e. in a position with no attacks or guards the number of units is at least 28. But that's another puzzle (find a legal position with 28 units without guards or attacks).

    Of course, you are allowed to take more than 4 units.
  7. 30 Jul '08 13:22
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Unit? is that a chess term? Can I assume you are talking about a chess position?
    Officer = K, Q, R, B, N
    Piece = Sometimes means K, Q, R, B, N, sometimes means also P
    Man, Unit = K, Q, R, B, N, P

    I wanted to include all 6 types (K, Q, R, B, N, P) so I said "unit" and not "piece".
  8. 30 Jul '08 13:49
    The shortest game in which all pieces are captured could function as a starting point.
  9. Standard member forkedknight
    Defend the Universe
    30 Jul '08 13:56
    Are the rules of a normal game in place, i.e. check/checkmate on the king?
  10. 30 Jul '08 14:58
    Originally posted by forkedknight
    Are the rules of a normal game in place, i.e. check/checkmate on the king?
    Yes
  11. 30 Jul '08 18:52 / 3 edits
    This is not minimal. This is the first attempt by me or indeed by anyone, and gives you a nice number to beat:

    1. b4 g5 2. Bb2 b5 3. Bxh8 Bg7 4. g4 Bxa1 5. Bxa1 Bb7 6. f4 Bxh1 7. Bg2 e6 8.
    Bxa8 Bxa8 9. d4 f5 10. e4 fxe4 11. d5 e3 12. dxe6 dxe6 13. Qxd8+ Kxd8 14.
    fxg5 Ke8


  12. 30 Jul '08 21:31
    Originally posted by David113
    Officer = K, Q, R, B, N
    Piece = Sometimes means K, Q, R, B, N, sometimes means also P
    Man, Unit = K, Q, R, B, N, P

    I wanted to include all 6 types (K, Q, R, B, N, P) so I said "unit" and not "piece".
    I have always heard the following terms associated with this definitions.

    Unit - Any chess piece, including pawns.
    Man - Any chess piece other than a pawn.
    Major Piece - Queens and Rooks
    Minor Piece - Knights and Bishops
    Royalty - Kings and possibly Queens
    Piece - Either Unit or Man, depending on whether pawns count (I can't recall)
  13. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    It's about respect
    30 Jul '08 21:34
    Originally posted by geepamoogle
    I have always heard the following terms associated with this definitions.

    Unit - Any chess piece, including pawns.
    Man - Any chess piece other than a pawn.
    Major Piece - Queens and Rooks
    Minor Piece - Knights and Bishops
    Royalty - Kings and possibly Queens
    Piece - Either Unit or Man, depending on whether pawns count (I can't recall)
    I was told the Pawns were not Pieces.
  14. Standard member SwissGambit
    Caninus Interruptus
    30 Jul '08 22:05
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    I was told the Pawns were not Pieces.
    Typical elitist snobbery! That's just the tall man trying to keep them down.
  15. 30 Jul '08 22:23
    Originally posted by geepamoogle
    I have always heard the following terms associated with this definitions.

    Unit - Any chess piece, including pawns.
    Man - Any chess piece other than a pawn.
    Major Piece - Queens and Rooks
    Minor Piece - Knights and Bishops
    Royalty - Kings and possibly Queens
    Piece - Either Unit or Man, depending on whether pawns count (I can't recall)
    why is everyone bickering about such a trivial matter? as long as we all understand what the OP had in mind it doesn't really matter