Originally posted by AThousandYoung D) Nobody's ever seen a chicken hatch from an egg. Any memories you have of this were implanted in your brain by the CIA.
Originally posted by AThousandYoung It depends on where you draw the line between chicken and nonchicken, as TheMaster37 pointed out. Wherever that line is drawn, the parent of the first chicken was a very chicken like animal. The last mutation was just good enough that it enabled chickens to slowly outcompete the protochickens, but I don't know what it was. I haven't looked into the matter.
TheMaster37 is right though. The egg came first.
lets assume there is a chicken egg, isnt anything that laid the egg a chicken?
Originally posted by AThousandYoung No they aren't. What are you talking about?
Eggs have shells. Chickens don't.
The shell is just a small fraction of the egg, the insides are what counts. It is the embroy inside that turns into the chicken, therefore they are one and the same, but just at different phases of developement 🙂
Originally posted by Jay Peatea The shell is just a small fraction of the egg, the insides are what counts. It is the embroy inside that turns into the chicken, therefore they are one and the same, but just at different phases of developement 🙂
Really? Do alligator embryos turn into chickens? How about wasp embryos?
Originally posted by AThousandYoung Really? Do alligator embryos turn into chickens? How about wasp embryos?
No but chicken embryos do.
I remember somebody else once said in another thread (I think it was royalchicken) that it was the egg because dinosaurs eggs were around long before chickens.
Originally posted by Jay Peatea No but chicken embryos do.
I remember somebody else once said in another thread (I think it was royalchicken) that it was the egg because dinosaurs eggs were around long before chickens.
Originally posted by Polynikes A Thousand Young, thanks for your answer. I really apologize to you, I didnt mean to lead you on, I was posting a bit sarcastically.
I do not believe in evolution. I am not saying that I am a bible thumper, and I am not going to jam anything down your throat.
My point was only to bring in some valid, unanswerable questions. The theory of evolution ...[text shortened]... n over every last rock in the sea. And then Ill just say that they must be buried a bit deeper.
once you acept DNA/genetics as true, and there is no good reason not to, evolution becomes an enevitable side-effect. even it theuniverse was created twelve seconds ago, if genetics was created as a part of it, then evolution would already have started (although nobody would notice for about another million years.)
it is really difficult to type with cold fingers.
:'(
Originally posted by fearlessleader once you acept DNA/genetics as true, and there is no good reason not to, evolution becomes an enevitable side-effect. even it theuniverse was created twelve seconds ago, if genetics was created as a part of it, then evolution would already have started (although nobody would notice for about another million years.)
it is really difficult to type with cold fingers.
:'(
Evolution does not become an inevitable side effect of the existence of DNA and genetics. The point of contention of most people who don't believe the TOE is that the TOE combines natural selection - which many Creationists have no problem with - with the idea that "information can be created" through mutation. This point of view is definitely one that should be examined thoroughly and doubting it is a reasonable thing to do.
09 Dec '04 00:24
what came first chicken or egg
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