16 Jul 17
Originally posted by FreakyKBHIts not quibbling, its simply not true that the internet is an AI.
Don't quibble.
I'm not the only one who sees the threat.
https://www.recode.net/2017/7/15/15976744/elon-musk-artificial-intelligence-regulations-ai
Oh I have no doubt whatsoever that you got the idea from elsewhere. The problem is you didn't understand it.
I do realise that AI is a potential threat, but the internet IS NOT and AI.
I think we need to develop AI a bit more before we can reasonably judge how dangerous it is.
Of course, by the time we get there, it may be too late.
Originally posted by twhiteheadYou're clueless about what I--- or anyone else, for that matter--- understands or doesn't understand.
Its not quibbling, its simply not true that the internet is an AI.
[b]I'm not the only one who sees the threat.
https://www.recode.net/2017/7/15/15976744/elon-musk-artificial-intelligence-regulations-ai
Oh I have no doubt whatsoever that you got the idea from elsewhere. The problem is you didn't understand it.
I do realise that AI is a potenti ...[text shortened]... reasonably judge how dangerous it is.
Of course, by the time we get there, it may be too late.[/b]
As in: completely clueless.
The internet contains AI; the fact that it is growing there is beyond dispute.
It is learning from all of the information we give it access to, feeding off of our countless transactions with it.
Its intelligence is the sum total of all the information it has gathered, all of it is considered useful, even the cliché cat videos.
ALL of it.
Unless you think the AI part is limited to a flash drive somewhere?
Originally posted by twhiteheadWhatever value you place on the expression or the idea itself can pretty much be discounted.
So your posts have no meaningful content. Got it.
The fact is, it is entirely possible and not just conceivable that AI continues to develop self-protection and defense from all exterior attacks or attempts to stop it from expanding its domain.
And we are aiding it along.
Originally posted by FreakyKBHStill devoid of content I see.
Whatever value you place on the expression or the idea itself can pretty much be discounted.
Your claim that I cannot know anything about what you think is starting to look like a good one.
The fact is, it is entirely possible and not just conceivable that AI continues to develop self-protection and defense from all exterior attacks or attempts to stop it from expanding its domain.
And we are aiding it along.
And the fact is that the internet is still NOT an AI.
16 Jul 17
Originally posted by twhiteheadThis is how you're going to live your life?
Still devoid of content I see.
Your claim that I cannot know anything about what you think is starting to look like a good one.
[b]The fact is, it is entirely possible and not just conceivable that AI continues to develop self-protection and defense from all exterior attacks or attempts to stop it from expanding its domain.
And we are aiding it along.
And the fact is that the internet is still NOT an AI.[/b]
Straining at your leash over perceived but ultimately insignificant and otherwise moot points?
Where do you think the AI is, exactly, if not on/in the internet?
The reality is, those who are paying attention see it not only as real (because it's already happening) but a grave danger.
And we are helping it.
16 Jul 17
Originally posted by FreakyKBHOnly when I am bored.
This is how you're going to live your life?
Where do you think the AI is, exactly, if not on/in the internet?
There are millions of AIs. Some can be rented on the internet. Some are on private servers. Some run on cell phones.
There is no 'THE AI'.
Originally posted by twhiteheadHate to break it to you, but the embarrassingly small portion of AI you enumerate isn't even the snowball on the tip of the iceberg of what lies beneath.
Only when I am bored.
[b]Where do you think the AI is, exactly, if not on/in the internet?
There are millions of AIs. Some can be rented on the internet. Some are on private servers. Some run on cell phones.
There is no 'THE AI'.[/b]
This is why huge intelligence junkies like Musk (and many others) are deathly afraid of what looks to be inevitable.
And it's the internet.
17 Jul 17
Originally posted by twhiteheadOne can't tell from your short-sighted opinions on it.
I hate to break it to you, but I actually know something about the subject.
Elon Musk is not the only one who sees not only where it's headed but where we currently are; you apparently think you have better sources, so feel free to cite them.
17 Jul 17
Originally posted by FreakyKBHI do not disagree with Elon Musk. I disagree with your claim that the internet is an AI (something Elon Musk has not said).
Elon Musk is not the only one who sees not only where it's headed but where we currently are; you apparently think you have better sources, so feel free to cite them.
Funny seeing you use Elon Musk as a reference given that one of his companies, SpaceX, is, in your mind, a complete sham.
Originally posted by twhiteheadYou're (again) quibbling about minor points.
I do not disagree with Elon Musk. I disagree with your claim that the internet is an AI (something Elon Musk has not said).
Funny seeing you use Elon Musk as a reference given that one of his companies, SpaceX, is, in your mind, a complete sham.
Is it possible to have an internet without AI developing?
Yes; but apparently we didn't see it and are now realizing the need for safeguards after the fact.
Is it possible to have the AI which is developed and continuing to develop without the internet?
Emphatically, no.
No one person is always right, despite your arrogance of pretense otherwise.
One source thinking is folly.
But here's a guy who is steeped in the exchange of information who sees the huge downside of that method of exchange currently in full swing.
Hawking, same thing.
https://genius.com/Stephen-hawking-on-the-threat-of-artificial-intelligence-annotated
Your disconnect is the restriction of AI to the isolated tools being employed while failing to see the bigger picture which shows the entire system is learning, beginning to show signs of self-preservation as well as initiating code where access is otherwise unknown or established.