16 Sep '11 16:05>
Originally posted by sonhouseI have told you why the 4 billion was referenced in previous posting but you simply disregard the information.
And you are the one just as deluded as any christian or muslim.
You have the gall to tell us the whole universe is 4 billion miles across then change that to 16,000 light years.
Modern science has moved so far beyond your ridiculous vedas it is not funny. Maybe that claptrap you try to peddle convinced ancient uneducated people but it doesn't fly to ...[text shortened]... rs in the universe just based on the travel of rocks through the galaxy, our galaxy and others.
The specific Bhagavatam verse gives reference to size at the beginning of creation billions of years ago when the universes where manifested from the body of Lord Vishnu and at that time the universe was only 4 billion miles across but it expanded to its present size.
Your modern science does not have the greater perspective of its cosmology because actually there are parallel universes and other dimensions that modern science is not aware of - but the Vedas does have this larger perspective.
Without this larger perspective Vedic conclusions will always seem far fetched.
You cannot take verses from the Veda out of context and without being aware of their greater perspective and to do so purposely is dishonest.
"Could have seeded life"...... is not truth but wishful thinking and not science.
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Modern science borrows from the Veda
Surya Siddhanta
In Surya Siddhanta, bhaskaraachaarya calculates the time taken for the earth on orbit the sun to 9 decimal places (365.258756484 days). The modern accepted measurement is 365.2596 days.
The different between the ancient Indian measurement (1500 years ago) and the modern measurement is only 0.00085 days (0.0002😵. Bharat has given the world the idea of smallest and largest measure of time – from 34,000th a second (Kranti) to 4.32 billion years (kalpa).
(Bhugoladhyaya , surya sidhanta). Arya bhatta was the first to deduce that the earth is round. It must be mentioned that western science accepted that earth is spherical only in 14th century. Also he was the first to postulate it is the earth that rotates and the stars are stationary. This was about a 1000 year before Copernicus.
The globe of earth stands suspended in space at the center of a circular frame that is at the center of the Bhagola surrounded by water, soil, fire and air and is circular on all sided that is spherical’.
(Aryabhattiya - chapter 4, verse 6)
[ modern science - earth has a core - molten magma, different layers of rocks, soil, water and atmosphere]
Day length -
23 hrs – 56 mts – 4 scds – 0.1 fractions – ‘aryabhatta’
23 hrs – 56 mts – 4 scds – 0.091 fractions – modern value
Aryabhatta gives the radius of the planetary orbits in terms of the radius of the Earth/Sun orbit as essentially their periods of rotation around the Sun. He believes that the Moon and planets shine by reflected sunlight, incredibly he believes that the orbits of the planets are ellipses. He correctly explains the causes of eclipses of the Sun and the Moon.
Aryabhatta gave an accurate approximation for π. He wrote in the Aryabhattiya the following:-
Add four to one hundred, multiply by eight and then add sixty-two thousand. the result is approximately the circumference of a circle of diameter twenty thousand. By this rule the relation of the circumference to diameter is given.
This gives π = 62832/20000 = 3.1416 which is a surprisingly accurate value. In fact π = 3.14159265 correct to 8 places.
The Surya Siddhanta contains the roots of modern trigonometry. It uses sine (jya, cosine (kojya or "perpendicular sine" and inverse sine (otkram jya for the first time, and also contains the earliest use of the tangent and secant when discussing the shadow cast by a gnomon in verses 21–22 of Chapter 3:
Of [the sun's meridian zenith distance] find the jya ("base sine" and kojya (cosine or "perpendicular sine". If then the jya and radius be multiplied respectively by the measure of the gnomon in digits, and divided by the kojya, the results are the shadow and hypotenuse at mid-day.
In modern notation, this gives the shadow of the gnomon at mid-day as
s = \frac{g \sin \theta}{\cos \theta} = g \tan \theta
and the hypotenuse of the gnomon at mid-day as
h = \frac{g r}{\cos \theta} = g r \frac{1}{\cos \theta} = g r \sec \theta
where \ g is the measure of the gnomon, \ r is the radius of the gnomon, \ s is the shadow of the gnomon, and \ h is the hypotenuse of the gnomon.