10 Sep 08
there is a experiment going on. to send atoms two ways to hit each other, first trial seems to have went well, and to get both to hit may take till xmas/new year. some predict the end of the world others a breakthro in our understanding of the universe. me im going to have a xmas to remember even if its short.
10 Sep 08
Originally posted by Andrew HamiltonBut it wouldn't sound as nice if I wrote:
I don’t think the facility is supposed to produce a ‘bang’;
if it did then something must have gone horribly wrong.
A small collision for the CERN facility, a big collision for humankind.
would it?
10 Sep 08
Originally posted by stokerTheir colliding heavy particles not atoms, I think its built for proton vs proton collitions... They're going to collide ions at a later stage like they are in New york in the Rel. heavy ion coll.
there is a experiment going on. to send atoms two ways to hit each other, first trial seems to have went well, and to get both to hit may take till xmas/new year. some predict the end of the world others a breakthro in our understanding of the universe. me im going to have a xmas to remember even if its short.
Very exciting times were living in...
Baard
13 Sep 08
Originally posted by yo its meAlthough I find it fascinating and I would be eagerly awaiting the discoveries that will come out of it, I just have to agree with you here for it begs the obvious question; “what is the hurry?”.
Very unbalanced times $9/£5 billion could be spent so very differently to better serve the humanitarian crisis.
We can always discover any secrets of the universe later and right now there is great poverty and suffering in many parts of the world and things are likely to get much worse so that there are far more urgent things that we should be spending our money on right now.
I think we should spend more money on science but not this kind of science but science that will directly help to make our serious situation better such as solar power research to make solar power more economically viable etc and put all research that is done just for the sake of discovering the truth about something on hold until when we have finally removed the worst of our more Earthly problems.
13 Sep 08
Originally posted by Andrew HamiltonExactually
Although I find it fascinating and I would be eagerly awaiting the discoveries that will come out of it, I just have to agree with you here for it begs the obvious question; “what is the hurry?”.
We can always discover any secrets of the universe later and right now there is great poverty and suffering in many parts of the world and things are li ...[text shortened]... out something on hold until when we have finally removed the worst of our more Earthly problems.
13 Sep 08
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Originally posted by Andrew HamiltonYou place your bets and makes your choice. The thing is, with fundamental research like this you don't know what the dividends will be ten years down the road. It might lead to greater understanding of fusion processes and such or who knows what, anti-matter reactions, the payoff could be huge.
Although I find it fascinating and I would be eagerly awaiting the discoveries that will come out of it, I just have to agree with you here for it begs the obvious question; “what is the hurry?”.
We can always discover any secrets of the universe later and right now there is great poverty and suffering in many parts of the world and things are li ...[text shortened]... out something on hold until when we have finally removed the worst of our more Earthly problems.
There is one thing that titillated me about this: there is a search for information about this one particle that seems to go between its matter and anti-matter components trillions of times per second. Now THAT got my attention. Think what that would mean if we figured out how to turn ordinary matter into anti-matter, then recombine in a reactor.
Don't forget, tons of money is being spent on alternate energy and such by just about every advanced country so developments will come, are coming in fact.
13 Sep 08
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Originally posted by sonhouseAre you talking about the Higgs-Boson particle?
You place your bets and makes your choice. The thing is... [text shortened] there is a search for information about this one particle that seems to go between its matter and anti-matter components trillions of times per second. Now THAT got my attention. Think what that would mean if we figured out how to turn ordinary matter into anti-matter, then recomb ...[text shortened]... gy and such by just about every advanced country so developments will come, are coming in fact.
13 Sep 08
Originally posted by sonhouseMight, could-
It might lead to greater understanding .... the payoff could be huge.
If we spent our money feeding the starving they would live, putt irrigation systems on to Affrican farms and they would yeald food. Purify water and childern would be safe to drink it.
14 Sep 08
Originally posted by yo its meOne less war in the world and there will be a lot of money freed to make people to not having to starve. War is expencive, CERN is not in that perspective.
Might, could-
If we spent our money feeding the starving they [b]would live, putt irrigation systems on to Affrican farms and they would yeald food. Purify water and childern would be safe to drink it.[/b]
How much did the war in Afganistan cost? And what did it achieve?