Originally posted by e4chris
If you believe in god, its not much of an extention to call him a creator, saying DNA is created by god, the big bang is the hand of god etc.... there is nothing wrong with that way of thinking, and a good scientist would agree it can't be proven wrong.
I suspect the 6000 year creationists don't really believe what they are saying, it is more pig headedne can be verrrrry dumb, I knew one who was thick as two short planks, but not all of them are.
and a good scientist would agree it can't be proven wrong.
a good scientist would agree that believing in something that cannot be proved wrong even if it is wrong is totally unscientific.
For a hypothesis to be scientific, it must be FALSIFIABLE! (which is not to be confused with it being false!!!)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falsifiability
Demonstration:
We cannot disprove that the is a supernatural teacup orbiting Mars -so is a belief in such a thing scientific and part of science? Answer, no. Why not? Because even if it is wrong, it STILL cannot be disproved and it is stupid to believe something just because you cannot disprove it!
The same applies to the belief that a god created the universe: it is not falsifiable thus cannot ever be part of science. Thus no 'good' scientist would ever say a god created the universe.
some creationists can be verrrrry dumb, I knew one who was thick as two short planks, but not all of them are.
What does that indicate to you about the likely general validity of creationism? I mean, why do you think so many creationists are so unintelligent while so many scientists, few of which are creationists, are so clever?
http://creationscience.atspace.org/Proof.html
-the bottom graph says it all!
http://www.ehow.com/info_8115822_studies-iq.html
http://www.rationalskepticism.org/nontheism/liberalism-atheism-male-sexual-exclusivity-linked-to-iq-t779.html
"Participants who said they were atheists had an average IQ of 103 in adolescence, while adults who said they were religious averaged 97, the study found."
-This is going completely off-topic but I also noticed this same link says:
"The study found that young adults who said they were "very conservative" had an average adolescent IQ of 95, whereas those who said they were "very liberal" averaged 106." and also see http://createperfection.hubpages.com/hub/University-Study-Shows-People-With-Lower-IQs-Are-Conservatives