chicken or the egg/

so which came first..a dark hole at center of galaxy or a Galaxy's mass creating the dark hole?

Originally posted by @ogb
so which came first..a dark hole at center of galaxy or a Galaxy's mass creating the dark hole?

Originally posted by @eladar
Created at the same time.

Originally posted by @fabianfnas
I would say that one triggers the other. Meaning, first one, then the other.

Originally posted by @sonhouse
The mass had to come first or there would be no black hole.

I imagine that the construct we have for a black hole may be a complete misconception. It seems entirely possible to me that if we were to be in the middle of a black hole, we might find a complete "universe" of complexity and further "powers of 10" style dimensions to further smaller and smaller sizes and that "we" (out here, where we currently are) would be beyond the scope and comprehension of that smaller version of us deep inside the black hole. In essence, the universe would simply be compacted into that small pinhead size.

Further, I imagine that we are, in fact, inside that black hole right now, and that out beyond the furthest detectable objects and energy forms of the universe, some 14+ billion light years out there, there is an expanse so great that the distance from our universe to the next is just the same proportion as the nucleus of an atom to some outer shell. In other words, we are also in that black hole on the greater scale, one in which the full scope of the universe is so expansive that we are but the center of an atom, and the center of a black hole.

I don't have the physics or the math. I have only my imagination. It just seems right to me. I haven't seen anything that runs counter to this imagined conceptualization.

Originally posted by @apathist
Except that all mass was a point. Which does seem to imply a black hole.