Covid patients helped by NICOTINE?

@Eladar
You think the opioid crisis was started by addicts?

@eladar said
@DeepThought

I took one after the pain block wore off. It was not painful but I thought it would be better to error on the side of no pain. I found that it gave me energy and a positive feeling. My wife hated it necause I would not shut up.

The bottle was nearly full when I was done with pain meds, I mostly used Advil. Opioid in school is not a good idea.

"My wife hated it because I would not shut up."

😆

NHS advice is that acetaminophan should be your first choice, then if that doesn't work try ibuprofen and only then fun stuff - although they express it a little differently. Regarding taking opiods at school Chef from South Park's words come to mind: "There's a time and a place for everything and it's college.".

Men have high levels of enzyme key to COVID-19 infection, study finds

https://asiatimes.com/2020/02/covid-19-may-be-man-made-claims-taiwan-scholar/

Instead of admitting SARS2 kills more men than women because of the real reason, they falsely claimed it was because Asian men smoked tobacco more than Asian women. Now we know that is not accurate at all.

Do you see how long it took for them to admit the virus targets men more than women? They blamed it on smoking while I was saying all along it had nothing to do with that.

@metal-brain said
Men have high levels of enzyme key to COVID-19 infection, study finds

https://asiatimes.com/2020/02/covid-19-may-be-man-made-claims-taiwan-scholar/

Instead of admitting SARS2 kills more men than women because of the real reason, they falsely claimed it was because Asian men smoked tobacco more than Asian women. Now we know that is not accurate at all.

Do you see ...[text shortened]... e than women? They blamed it on smoking while I was saying all along it had nothing to do with that.

What are you on?
I have just read your above link and it does NOT say or claim or even vaguely imply any of those things but is completely IRRELEVANT to all those things. It doesn't even mention the word "smoking" or "tobacco" or "enzyme" or "woman" or "men" except in the term "man-made" but instead very briefly explains a conspiracy theory that C19 was man-made while providing no evidence it probably was.

Did you read your link?

Also, I for one don't personally know of anyone that denies C19 kills more men than women or has showed any clear desire to conceal such an apparent fact.
There must exist such persons but they must be relatively rare.

In addition, your link itself talks some BS, esp. with this statement;

"..Fang’s theory is that natural mutations of viruses will only result in small, singular changes, and it is suspicious to see a naturally mutated virus suddenly take on four amino acids..."

No, that isn't "suspicious" to anyone that knows the first thing about science, more specifically in this case, mutation and evolution. For starters, it may not have happened "suddenly" but rather as a result of up to 4 separate mutations that occurred at different times. After all, that is how evolution works most of the time and this would often be how new strains of virus evolve.
Also, there are various known ways it could have happened in a single mutation. See examples at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutation#Classification_of_types
So, even if it DID happen all at once, it certainly wouldn't be particularly unlikely that "a naturally mutated virus suddenly take on four amino acids" and, thus, to anyone that understands the first thing about that science, it wouldn't be "suspicious" if that happened but completely unsurprising.

Thus it is clear to experts that Fang is just talking BS here.

@humy said
What are you on?
I have just read your above link and it does NOT say or claim or even vaguely imply any of those things but is completely IRRELEVANT to all those things. It doesn't even mention the word "smoking" or "tobacco" or "enzyme" or "woman" or "men" except in the term "man-made" but instead very briefly explains a conspiracy theory that C19 was man-made while providi ...[text shortened]... pened but completely unsurprising.

Thus it is clear to experts that Fang is just talking BS here.

"So, even if it DID happen all at once, it certainly wouldn't be particularly unlikely that "a naturally mutated virus suddenly take on four amino acids" and, thus, to anyone that understands the first thing about that science, it wouldn't be "suspicious" if that happened but completely unsurprising."

What is your source of information?

@metal-brain said
"So, even if it DID happen all at once, it certainly wouldn't be particularly unlikely that "a naturally mutated virus suddenly take on four amino acids" and, thus, to anyone that understands the first thing about that science, it wouldn't be "suspicious" if that happened but completely unsurprising."

What is your source of information?

I have already given you one of the many sources; Just read the link I provided. Its just common knowledge in science that there commonly exists such types of mutation in nature therefore it wouldn't be surprising to any of us science experts here if it happened in a virus.
Besides, since there is no evidence for or against that it DID happen all at once, whatever point you are trying to make now is mute.

Can you explain to us why the contents of the link you provided in your previous post (i.e. the https://asiatimes.com/2020/02/covid-19-may-be-man-made-claims-taiwan-scholar/ one) is irrelevant to the claims you made in your previous post? (i.e. your claims that "They" falsely blamed the higher death rate on smoking)
Did you read your own link?
If so, were you hoping nobody here would notice it was irrelevant to your post's claims?

@humy said
I have already given you one of the many sources; Just read the link I provided. Its just common knowledge in science that there commonly exists such types of mutation in nature therefore it wouldn't be surprising to any of us science experts here if it happened in a virus.
Besides, since there is no evidence for or against that it DID happen all at once, whatever point you ar ...[text shortened]... own link?
If so, were you hoping nobody here would notice it was irrelevant to your post's claims?

You gave me wikipedia, an unreliable source. Give me an example of such a mutation or shut up.

A new scientific article on the mutatin of virus wich are similar to SARS-CoV-2:

DOI: 10.1016/j.cub.2020.05.023

If not accesible you can also read the phys.org report:

https://phys.org/news/2020-05-relative-sars-cov-evidence-evolved-naturally.html

@deepthought said
Cocodamol's my favourite, if you've got dental pain it actually works. Oxycontin's great, a friend had one left over and I had a dental abscess, I spent the afternoon curled up in bed without pain and feeling a little floaty...

I have been on co-codamol for over 20 years allowed 8 a day but am not addicted, can and have gone without, just took paracetamol for a while.

@ponderable said
A new scientific article on the mutatin of virus wich are similar to SARS-CoV-2:

DOI: 10.1016/j.cub.2020.05.023

If not accesible you can also read the phys.org report:

https://phys.org/news/2020-05-relative-sars-cov-evidence-evolved-naturally.html

The article says this:

"Our paper shows very clearly that these events occur naturally in wildlife."

Where is that paper?

If you go via the DOI (digital object identifier) you find:

https://www.cell.com/current-biology/pdf/S0960-9822(20)30662-X.pdf

This is the full paper as submitted (meaning there can be [minor] alterations in the editorial process)

@metal-brain said
You gave me wikipedia, an unreliable source. Give me an example of such a mutation or shut up.

wikipedia, being edited mainly by experts rather by morons like you, is a reliable source for most things, and certainly vastly more reliable than any of your opinions.
Those other types of mutations exist and this is just common knowledge and there is no reason why viruses cannot have those other mutations. For example;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insertion_(genetics)

And many non-wiki links basically say the same thing and no link says such other mutations don't exist.

https://study.com/academy/lesson/insertion-mutation-diseases-examples-quiz.html
"..Insertion mutations occur when extra nucleotides are put into a DNA sequence, making it longer...
...Insertion mutations can be small, like in the CAGTC example in which only one nucleotide was inserted, or they can be large, with many nucleotides being added...."

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2019/0127807.html
"..a virus, ... and the mutation base is CTAG, is an example of insertion mutation, ..."

https://www.coursehero.com/file/p4s85u1/An-example-of-insertion-mutation-can-be-seen-below-Chapter-20-Silent-mutation/
An example of insertion mutation can be seen below Chapter 20 Silent ... to use restriction enzymes to map the location of genomes in viruses and plasmids."


Do you deny the above assertions?
Do you deny the above such examples of such mutations?

@humy
Not to worry, if he reads those links at all he will just move the goal post.