1. Subscribersonhouse
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    31 Aug '09 03:03
    I have a CD, a burned list by one of my kids, I ripped it into microsoft media player and it seems to have done that ok, but when I go to my computer and try to find properties, it shows 0 bytes used and 0 bytes left, but the thing plays fine. It has 17 tracks and would allow only 16 tracks to be ripped on one list, the 17th track insisted on going to a second CD list. So I am thinking the thing is an MP3 maybe, 16 tracks show as 79 minutes so the last track would put it into the 80+ minute bracket. So I go to burn it from the ripped library and keep getting a message to insert a blank CD which I have plenty of but something is not recognizing the blank, the player, or the media software, using XP and the CD burner is an LG RW and DVD burner. It should work fine but it plays the cd I want to burn but doesn't recognize the blank CD's I put in. Any ideas? I don't see how I can see even how many megs an individual file is in MS media player, if it showed, say, 10 megs, I would know it's probably an MP3 but if it showed 35 megs or so, I would think it would be an ordinary CD file but can't see how to see that in Media player.
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    31 Aug '09 05:39
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    I have a CD, a burned list by one of my kids, I ripped it into microsoft media player and it seems to have done that ok, but when I go to my computer and try to find properties, it shows 0 bytes used and 0 bytes left, but the thing plays fine. It has 17 tracks and would allow only 16 tracks to be ripped on one list, the 17th track insisted on going to a sec ...[text shortened]... would think it would be an ordinary CD file but can't see how to see that in Media player.
    I couldn't understand all that. But regarding the size of the songs and what format they are in, simply look at the files using windows explorer not using media player. They are probably in My documents/My Music.
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    31 Aug '09 13:041 edit
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    I have a CD, a burned list by one of my kids, I ripped it into microsoft media player and it seems to have done that ok, but when I go to my computer and try to find properties, it shows 0 bytes used and 0 bytes left, but the thing plays fine. It has 17 tracks and would allow only 16 tracks to be ripped on one list, the 17th track insisted on going to a sec would think it would be an ordinary CD file but can't see how to see that in Media player.
    Just get a freeware software (I use Daemon Tools) and copy the disk as an .iso image file to your hard drive. You can then check out how big it is, in terms of megabytes.

    You can also burn the .iso image file then to the CD or DVD of your choice.

    Edit - Shouldn't this be in the General forum?
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    31 Aug '09 16:14
    Originally posted by Palynka
    Just get a freeware software (I use Daemon Tools) and copy the disk as an .iso image file to your hard drive. You can then check out how big it is, in terms of megabytes.

    You can also burn the .iso image file then to the CD or DVD of your choice.

    Edit - Shouldn't this be in the General forum?
    Yeah, sorry. I found the bit rate, which is 128 K so I know it's MP3, but the burner doesn't recognize a blank disk. It's an LG and I couldn't find a download driver on their site.
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    31 Aug '09 21:07
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    I have a CD, a burned list by one of my kids, I ripped it into microsoft media player and it seems to have done that ok, but when I go to my computer and try to find properties, it shows 0 bytes used and 0 bytes left, but the thing plays fine. It has 17 tracks and would allow only 16 tracks to be ripped on one list, the 17th track insisted on going to a sec ...[text shortened]... would think it would be an ordinary CD file but can't see how to see that in Media player.
    right click on the file and click "properties" it'll show you how big the file is.
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    01 Sep '09 00:43
    Originally posted by uzless
    right click on the file and click "properties" it'll show you how big the file is.
    I did and all it shows is zero. But I figured out already it's MP3. I got another burner, needed one anyway. BTW, it's amazing, DVD burners 5 years ago were a thousand bucks and I just got two, one for 40 bucks and the other for 37 at Target and Walmart, dual layer ones!
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    01 Sep '09 05:50
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    BTW, it's amazing, DVD burners 5 years ago were a thousand bucks
    I am fairly sure that was more than five years ago. Certainly CD burners were not that expensive, I don't recall when DVD burners became common place. The expensive thing now would be a Blue Ray burner but even that is under US$500 I believe.

    I would expect all new DVD burners to have dual layer, but I am yet to find a shop selling dual layer blanks. They just don't seem to be popular here.
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    02 Sep '09 23:46
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    I am fairly sure that was more than five years ago. Certainly CD burners were not that expensive, I don't recall when DVD burners became common place. The expensive thing now would be a Blue Ray burner but even that is under US$500 I believe.

    I would expect all new DVD burners to have dual layer, but I am yet to find a shop selling dual layer blanks. They just don't seem to be popular here.
    It also seems there are developments of newer yet technology that encodes files in holograms, enough to store the equivalent of 500 DVD's on one DVD sized disk of today. It ain't over yet folks! I wonder if the next step in Blue ray is a dual layer?
    At the same shop, Target, I saw a DVD/CD burner with blue ray player (not burner) for about 120 bucks! So burners at the 200 dollar area can't be far behind.
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    03 Sep '09 05:37
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    It also seems there are developments of newer yet technology that encodes files in holograms, enough to store the equivalent of 500 DVD's on one DVD sized disk of today. It ain't over yet folks!
    That has been talked about for years and will eventually happen. However there are other competing technologies that may beat it to the market and make it a niche market.

    I wonder if the next step in Blue ray is a dual layer?
    I was under the impression that dual layer blue ray was demonstrated before it even went commercial. It certainly is available today, though I don't know how popular it is or whether the writers are affordable.

    What I would like to see is the smaller size cd type disc but using blue ray technology to fit the capacity of a cd or dvd on a smaller disk. It would save so much in shelf space.
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    03 Sep '09 13:34
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    That has been talked about for years and will eventually happen. However there are other competing technologies that may beat it to the market and make it a niche market.

    [b]I wonder if the next step in Blue ray is a dual layer?

    I was under the impression that dual layer blue ray was demonstrated before it even went commercial. It certainly is ava ...[text shortened]... ogy to fit the capacity of a cd or dvd on a smaller disk. It would save so much in shelf space.[/b]
    Isn't the USD 1 Tb flash drive about to come out? I think the future must be ditching CD-shaped disks entirely.
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    03 Sep '09 16:10
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    That has been talked about for years and will eventually happen. However there are other competing technologies that may beat it to the market and make it a niche market.

    [b]I wonder if the next step in Blue ray is a dual layer?

    I was under the impression that dual layer blue ray was demonstrated before it even went commercial. It certainly is ava ...[text shortened]... ogy to fit the capacity of a cd or dvd on a smaller disk. It would save so much in shelf space.[/b]
    It certainly is possible, there are already mini-DVD's, my camcorder uses them, an hour of video on each one and that is only DVD, if it was a blue ray, it would hold enough for a movie or two for sure. The question is whether companies want to produce them. It could lead to a whole new level of technology with smaller drives built just for minidisks, my corder already has one so it's not a big leap to see them in a portable or home unit.
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    03 Sep '09 16:45
    Originally posted by Palynka
    Isn't the USD 1 Tb flash drive about to come out? I think the future must be ditching CD-shaped disks entirely.
    Typo: I meant to type USB, not USD.
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    Originally posted by Palynka
    Isn't the USD 1 Tb flash drive about to come out? I think the future must be ditching CD-shaped disks entirely.
    Its all about price. You can buy a blank CD for about R2 retail (US$0.25).
    In fact, an empty case costs more than a CD.
    Commercial manufacture of music CDs is even cheaper.
    Flash drives still have about 5 years at least before they become that cheap.
    I would expect commercial music and movie producers to switch to flash once the price comes down to about 10% of the sale price of a CD. So when you can get a 1Gb flash for US$1 expect to see CDs on them.

    Having said that, you can already buy music on flash, but only in larger collections than cds.
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    05 Sep '09 17:20
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    Its all about price. You can buy a blank CD for about R2 retail (US$0.25).
    In fact, an empty case costs more than a CD.
    Commercial manufacture of music CDs is even cheaper.
    Flash drives still have about 5 years at least before they become that cheap.
    I would expect commercial music and movie producers to switch to flash once the price comes down to ab ...[text shortened]...
    Having said that, you can already buy music on flash, but only in larger collections than cds.
    Well, on the original problem of not recognizing a blank media, I solved that one. I remembered a trick I was told years ago. Take out the power plug, take out the ribbon connector. Reconnect the ribbon, reconnect the power and Boing! it works now. Go figure. So I put in a new DVD/CD burner dual layer in the slot that previously had a DVD rom box and so now I don't have to worry about the rip/burn cycle that just adds hundreds of MB to my HD. So I was able to do my son's cd like he wanted. So remember that, folks, if something seems wrong with the DVD burner like not recognizing blank media, try that trick, removing cables and reinstalling. It seems to reset something inside the burner.
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    05 Sep '09 20:26
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    .. and so now I don't have to worry about the rip/burn cycle ..
    It sounds like you were copying CDs using media player to rip the songs then burn them again. If you want a copy of a CD you already have it is far better to copy the whole cd using nero or some other cd copying software to make an exact copy. If you go to mp3 then back to cd you will loose some quality. Copying a cd with even a single drive is perfectly possible so long as you have enough temporary space on the hard disk. Its obviously fast with your new dual drive configuration.
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