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It seems 'cold fusion' is not fading away after all:

It seems 'cold fusion' is not fading away after all:

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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/03/100321182909.htm

We'll have to wait and see on this one, if anything comes out of all this. Would be great if it did! There is a piece in this article saying some BACTERIA do a kind of cold fusion!

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Originally posted by sonhouse
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/03/100321182909.htm

We'll have to wait and see on this one, if anything comes out of all this. Would be great if it did! There is a piece in this article saying some BACTERIA do a kind of cold fusion!
If we with fusion mean nuclear fusion where two hydrogen nuclei fuse into a helium nucleus? No, I don't think so.

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I wonder if the bacterium could survive the release of energy if exactly one fusion reaction were done between two atoms of hydrogen inside some enzyme.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
I wonder if the bacterium could survive the release of energy if exactly one fusion reaction were done between two atoms of hydrogen inside some enzyme.
It looks like they are saying they do.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
It looks like they are saying they do.
That doesn't seem possible, especially since you can't fuse two hydrogen atoms together without a gravity well about the size of the Sun. It is done by achieving critical mass of radioactive isotopes. I don't understand how this would work at all.

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Originally posted by UzumakiAi
That doesn't seem possible, especially since you can't fuse two hydrogen atoms together without a gravity well about the size of the Sun.
Yes you can. All you need is for some force other than gravity to push them together, this includes electromagnetic forces, or plain old momentum. Slamming protons together is relatively easy, and even takes place in the atmosphere.

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Originally posted by twhitehead
Yes you can. All you need is for some force other than gravity to push them together, this includes electromagnetic forces, or plain old momentum. Slamming protons together is relatively easy, and even takes place in the atmosphere.
There may be something to the momentum idea, if cold fusion proves in the end to be valid: Quantum effects can make a small portion of a mixture accelerate to incredible velocities, much higher than classical physics would allow. That might be going on in cold fusion, if anything is in fact proven to have been going on!

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Originally posted by sonhouse
There may be something to the momentum idea, if cold fusion proves in the end to be valid: Quantum effects can make a small portion of a mixture accelerate to incredible velocities, much higher than classical physics would allow. That might be going on in cold fusion, if anything is in fact proven to have been going on!
Cold fusion may indeed be possible. Perhaps with the aid of a catalyst of some kind. Future will tell.

But I don't believe that any bacteria use cold fusion to create energy for their internal energy metabolism. I think the result would be destructive of its genetic material.

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Originally posted by FabianFnas
Cold fusion may indeed be possible. Perhaps with the aid of a catalyst of some kind. Future will tell.

But I don't believe that any bacteria use cold fusion to create energy for their internal energy metabolism. I think the result would be destructive of its genetic material.
Bacteria have robust DNA repair mechanisms, they can take a lot of radiation. I think the radiation in this case would be neutrons.
There was a 'mythbusters' show the other day that tested the radiation resistance of various bugs, the myth was that cockroaches are the kings of radiation resistance. They lived with 10,000 rad doses, ten times the lethal dose of humans. However there was one bug that took 10 times that dose to die, some kind of fly, forget which, but it was shown the cockroach myth to be wrong, ten times more likely to die than that fly species they showed.

The thing about the possibility of bacterial fusion is the reaction would be so powerful it would provide hundreds of times the energy of any chemical reaction so it would not take very much fusion to power such a life form.

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