1. Standard memberThequ1ck
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    Towards the end of your life the machine will reveal itself to you.

    It will begin with coincidence and deja vu. Slowly you will begin to question
    time and meaning. After a while you will understand neither.

    This is death.

    It is not the instant release we are led to believe it is but a gradual decline
    throughout life.

    Those that you love will remain intact and not know of your shift. They will
    only see the inconsequence of a game unplayed.

    But you are dead, believe me!
  2. Standard memberDeepThought
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    Originally posted by Thequ1ck
    Towards the end of your life the machine will reveal itself to you.

    It will begin with coincidence and deja vu. Slowly you will begin to question
    time and meaning. After a while you will understand neither.

    This is death.

    It is not the instant release we are led to believe it is but a gradual decline
    throughout life.

    Those that you love will r ...[text shortened]... hift. They will
    only see the inconsequence of a game unplayed.

    But you are dead, believe me!
    Out of curiosity, did you accidentally post this here meaning for it to be in the spiritual forum, or is this an attempt to start a flame war?
  3. Standard memberThequ1ck
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    Originally posted by DeepThought
    Out of curiosity, did you accidentally post this here meaning for it to be in the spiritual forum, or is this an attempt to start a flame war?
    I'm happy for it to be moved to spirituality if you can disprove it scientifically.

    It has nothing to do with God.
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    What do you want us to disprove? Your first post is rather incoherent, so you'll have to be more specific.
  5. Standard memberThequ1ck
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    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    What do you want us to disprove? Your first post is rather incoherent, so you'll have to be more specific.
    I don't think it's possible to disprove the simple concept from a Descartian
    point of view.

    However, I'd like to see if you can disprove whether it's possible for one entity
    to relay trans dimensional information to another.

    If so, what would the implications be?

    What would death mean?

    If not then what is the purpose of a singular timeline?
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    Trans dimensional information?
  7. Standard memberThequ1ck
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    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Trans dimensional information?
    I'm talking of the greater anthropic principle.

    In that universes split by chaos are also united by commonality.

    Christ! Do I have to spell it out for you?

    edit. Ask deepthroat. He gets it.
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    Originally posted by Thequ1ck
    I'm talking of the greater anthropic principle.

    In that universes split by chaos are also united by commonality.

    Christ! Do I have to spell it out for you?

    edit. Ask deepthroat. He gets it.
    Without the assistance of Christ and without spitting it out, yes; please spell it out.
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    24 Mar '09 22:37
    Originally posted by Thequ1ck
    Towards the end of your life the machine will reveal itself to you.

    It will begin with coincidence and deja vu. Slowly you will begin to question
    time and meaning. After a while you will understand neither.

    This is death.

    It is not the instant release we are led to believe it is but a gradual decline
    throughout life.

    Those that you love will r ...[text shortened]... hift. They will
    only see the inconsequence of a game unplayed.

    But you are dead, believe me!
    Well I beg to differ on the 'gradual decline' concept. Although physically and mentally we certainly decline, we maintain consciousness, and Isaac Asimov was heard to say just seconds before he died "I AM Isaac Asimov"
    Signifying there was no gradual decline but a sudden drop off like a boat going over Niagra Falls.
  10. Standard memberforkedknight
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    If it can't be disproven, it's not science by definition, and therefore should be moved.
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    Originally posted by Thequ1ck
    I don't think it's possible to disprove the simple concept from a Descartian
    point of view.

    However, I'd like to see if you can disprove whether it's possible for one entity
    to relay trans dimensional information to another.

    If so, what would the implications be?

    What would death mean?

    If not then what is the purpose of a singular timeline?
    So you are asking us, a disparate group of engineers, chessplayers, and budding philosophers, not one true scientist, like an Ed Witten or Stephen Hawking, to answer questions that have gone unanswered for the last 2000 years or so. Good luck getting either a proof or a disproof of that. You are spouting nonsense to hear your head rattle, and to give the mistaken impression you have some kind of innate intelligence.
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    *puts down sci-fi book*

    That's what I thought.

    No room for philosophy in the science forum.

    I'm off to spirituality where they can actually entertain these kind of concepts.

    edit. Actually that's not true, I'll just get quoted scripture in there, please don't make me go!
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    Of course there is room for philosophy, but philosophy is not just some random babblings which come to mind. It's ordered and systematic, and you must clearly define the concepts you are introducing.
  14. Standard memberThequ1ck
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    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Of course there is room for philosophy, but philosophy is not just some random babblings which come to mind. It's ordered and systematic, and you must clearly define the concepts you are introducing.
    I don't know how to make it any clearer.

    The greater anthropic principle theorises that the universe is continually splitting
    into an infinite number of multiverses at each point in time so that each possibility
    is played out.

    My question is can and do each of these universes affect each other.

    e.g. If a person dies in one universe, can they still influence another, like an unplayed
    game of chess.
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    Originally posted by Thequ1ck
    I don't know how to make it any clearer.

    The greater anthropic principle theorises that the universe is continually splitting
    into an infinite number of multiverses at each point in time so that each possibility
    is played out.

    My question is can and do each of these universes affect each other.

    e.g. If a person dies in one universe, can they still influence another, like an unplayed
    game of chess.
    I cannot understand you;

    What is this so called "greater anthropic principle" and which philosophers brought it up?
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