Religion or science?

Originally posted by @wildgrass
What was the science you're talking about? Still hasn't been explained.

It certainly wasn't natural selection. Hitler never once mentioned it.

edit: Aha, I found it. Not sure why you guys can't provide substance to your arguments. https://www.ushmm.org/collections/bibliography/nazi-racial-science
[quote]This campaign was based in part on ideas abou ...[text shortened]... himself. Unlike evolution and natural selection, there was no empirical evidence to support it.

The science of killing off traits you don't want and breeding the traits you do want.

Originally posted by @wildgrass
What was the science you're talking about? Still hasn't been explained.

It certainly wasn't natural selection. Hitler never once mentioned it.

edit: Aha, I found it. Not sure why you guys can't provide substance to your arguments. https://www.ushmm.org/collections/bibliography/nazi-racial-science
[quote]This campaign was based in part on ideas abou ...[text shortened]... himself. Unlike evolution and natural selection, there was no empirical evidence to support it.

Social Darwinism is the scientific application of the time.

Originally posted by @humy

both the flat earth and the moon landing denial are based on science--- actual science with actual evidence.

Which science? What evidence? If that is true, why refuse to show us just as if you are lying?

Science, in the traditional sense: things that can be observed, measured, tested, reported, falsified.
My only evidence follows all rules of science, submitted as facts which anyone can test.

Originally posted by @freakykbh
What makes the declaration more than a little problematic is that both the flat earth and the moon landing denial are based on science--- actual science with actual evidence.

I've never heard anyone dedicated to pseudo science, like astrology or flat earth, proudly presented themselves as pseudo scientists, never.

So I am not surprised that you deny pseudo science being pseudo science.

This is what the future will say about our times - some people of the past believed that our planet was flat, they believed that positions of the stars could tell the future, they thought that they never went to the moon, despite the fact that all of these fields was proven wrong by real science.

Originally posted by @freakykbh
Science, in the traditional sense: things that can be observed, measured, tested, reported, falsified.
My only evidence follows all rules of science, submitted as facts which anyone can test.

Science, in the traditional sense: things that can be observed, measured, ....

So where are your observations and measurements that show Earth to be flat and not round? Present them please...

My only evidence follows all rules of science,

What evidence? You haven't presented any. Thus that word "only" inserted there is an understatement.
And evidence doesn't "follow rules" other than the trivial 'rules' that it must adhere to the valid definition of 'evidence', nothing more.
Evidence is defined as whatever can be presented that logically entails the assertion/theory to be true/probable.
So you are talking gibberish here.

submitted as facts which anyone can test.

"facts" are what is proven by the evidence. You haven't presented any evidence because there is no evidence that the Earth is flat thus it isn't a "fact" that the Earth is flat. You haven't "submitted" anything "as facts" other than you personal opinion, nothing more. Mere personal opinion isn't the "facts".
In addition; the 'flat-Earth theory' has already implicitly and inadvertently been tested and proven false and in many different ways. For example, we have satellites orbiting the Earth taking pictures and films and the resulting film footage clearly shows the Earth is round, not flat.

Originally posted by @fabianfnas
I've never heard anyone dedicated to pseudo science, like astrology or flat earth, proudly presented themselves as pseudo scientists, never.

So I am not surprised that you deny pseudo science being pseudo science.

This is what the future will say about our times - some people of the past believed that our planet was flat, they believed that positio ...[text shortened]... er went to the moon, despite the fact that all of these fields was proven wrong by real science.

I've never heard anyone dedicated to pseudo science, like astrology or flat earth, proudly presented themselves as pseudo scientists, never.
Well, of course not.
Everyone who walks the planet--- for the most part--- thinks they're on the side of truth.
Very few, indeed, possess the temerity to question themselves.
You don't strike me as one of the few.

So I am not surprised that you deny pseudo science being pseudo science.
You have a penchant for repeating fallacy despite receiving correction otherwise.
Perhaps you should simply argue with yourself and cut out the pesky middle man.

This is what the future will say about our times - some people of the past believed that our planet was flat, they believed that positions of the stars could tell the future, they thought that they never went to the moon, despite the fact that all of these fields was proven wrong by real science.
Here's one prediction which is consistently correct: our ability to predict the future has been full of crap, therefore our current ability to predict the future is equally suspect and we ought to be suspicious of anyone claiming to know what the future will think of those in the past.

Originally posted by @humy

Science, in the traditional sense: things that can be observed, measured, ....

So where are your observations and measurements that show Earth to be flat and not round? Present them please...

My only evidence follows all rules of science,

What evidence? You haven't presented any. Thus that word "only" inserted there ...[text shortened]... ng pictures and films and the resulting film footage clearly shows the Earth is round, not flat.

Again, the conversations related to these topics are all over this website.
If you're interested in pursuing the line of consideration, all of the posts are still available.

Originally posted by @freakykbh
Again, the conversations related to these topics are all over this website.
If you're interested in pursuing the line of consideration, all of the posts are still available.

No no, don't be shy.
Give us the strongest evidence that the Earth is flat.
I challenge you!

Originally posted by @freakykbh
conversations related to these topics are all over this website.

-and none state what the evidence for flat Earth is. ....we're all still waiting for you to point out to us this evidence of flat Earth you say exists which we believe doesn't....
Why hold back? Why not vindicate yourself by show that you are right and we are all wrong just by showing it? What's the holdup? Your fingers physically can't type the right sequence of words, or what?
We think it is because it doesn't exist; prove us wrong!

Originally posted by @eladar
Social Darwinism is the scientific application of the time.

Not really. At best, Social darwinism was an abject misinterpretation of Darwin's theories. The "application" you speak of is eugenics and racism, which aren't scientific and obviously predate Darwin.

Originally posted by @humy
-and none state what the evidence for flat Earth is. ....we're all still waiting for you to point out to us this evidence of flat Earth you say exists which we believe doesn't....
Why hold back? Why not vindicate yourself by show that you are right and we are all wrong just by showing it? What's the holdup? Your fingers physically can't type the right sequence of words, or what?
We think it is because it doesn't exist; prove us wrong!

Why repeat what has been said so consistently, even the most ardent of opposing positions could easily rattle off the two points?

Originally posted by @freakykbh
Why repeat what has been said so consistently, even the most ardent of opposing positions could easily rattle off the two points?

...no evidence then. Just as we thought.

Originally posted by @humy
...no evidence then. Just as we thought.

Your lack of effort doesn't erase thousands of posts full of evidence, so you can comfort yourself with your blanket of ignorance all you wish: the results are the same.

Originally posted by @wildgrass
Not really. At best, Social darwinism was an abject misinterpretation of Darwin's theories. The "application" you speak of is eugenics and racism, which aren't scientific and obviously predate Darwin.

I guess we argur over semantics and that is pretty fruitless. You are wrong because I say you are wrong based on personal belief.

Originally posted by @freakykbh
Your lack of effort doesn't erase thousands of posts full of evidence,

-evidence of flat Earth? Really? Assuming you are still talking about flat Earth and you haven't changed the topic (have you changed the topic? ) ; OK then, point to us just any ONE example of these "thousands of posts full of evidence" of flat Earth that we somehow all missed ... if there are thousands of them as you claim, you shouldn't have any difficulty finding just ONE of them to show us! Failure to do so would confirm what we all already know.