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https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2020/05/12/2006874117?fbclid=IwAR3XyzNM70zFIVBag8ThY-lXCrC4CuFzt5jYW0C5D1Q1Li6TPUHE6Zz15yY
@deepthought saidNeat.
https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2020/05/12/2006874117?fbclid=IwAR3XyzNM70zFIVBag8ThY-lXCrC4CuFzt5jYW0C5D1Q1Li6TPUHE6Zz15yY
@deepthought saidhttps://www.pnas.org/content/early/2020/05/12/2006874117
https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2020/05/12/2006874117?fbclid=IwAR3XyzNM70zFIVBag8ThY-lXCrC4CuFzt5jYW0C5D1Q1Li6TPUHE6Zz15yY
@eladar saidthe "minimal" is the point in question. If hospitals couldn't cope in some areas with "only" a few percent infected how would it have been with much more? That is the background for "flattening the curve".
Better yet, get everyone of good health 50 to 6 sick with covid and then you will have herd immunity with minimal deaths.
@ponderable saidThanks, I'll do that in future, cut out the ID thing. The thread title was meant to be "Shut the <adjective> up", but the arrowed brackets did some damage. Yes, it's a nice study.
https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2020/05/12/2006874117
is actually enough. I Always try to cut those pesky id-thingies.
For all who wonder About the contents: It is a really well done study on the dropelts expelled by people talking...and the fate of these small particles.
Maks help actually (to keep the wearer from spreading the disease [not only but including the current pandemic-causing SARS-CoV2])
@ponderable saidSo how can we pretend we saved more lives, got it.
the "minimal" is the point in question. If hospitals couldn't cope in some areas with "only" a few percent infected how would it have been with much more? That is the background for "flattening the curve".
@ponderable saidMy guess is that in the UK about 10% of the population have been infected so far. The IFR is about 1% and is age dependent. However, about 5% of cases are severe enough to require hospitalisation. Those who've recovered can have lung damage. Suppose we need about 40 million people to be infected for herd immunity in the UK, this is lower than the lowest end of estimates. That would mean up to about 2 million people with severe lung injury from covid-19. It's a pretty significant cost.
the "minimal" is the point in question. If hospitals couldn't cope in some areas with "only" a few percent infected how would it have been with much more? That is the background for "flattening the curve".
@eladar saidIndeed not many people living today will live in hundred yeras' time...
So how can we pretend we saved more lives, got it.
@ponderable saidMost of those killed by Covid had less than 5 I would wager, certainly no more than 10.
Indeed not many people living today will live in hundred yeras' time...
@eladar saidHuman life is precise. Just one extra month of life to a normal human is worth more than an infinite amount of money let alone the sometimes pathetic amount of money required to extend a human life by that extra month.
According to Sh half the US deaths were from nursing home patients who had at most 5 months to live even without covid.