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    @joe-shmo said
    but I'm not knowledgeable on the specifics of virology.
    Talk to eladar ... I think he runs a correspondence course.
    (Also available; ecology, climatology, embryology, epidemiology, pedagogy, mathematics, economics, ....)
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    @wolfgang59 said
    Talk to eladar ... I think he runs a correspondence course.
    (Also available; ecology, climatology, embryology, epidemiology, pedagogy, mathematics, economics, ....)
    I just do research and continue to learn.

    Do you deny the outcomes presented in the video?
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    @eladar said
    I just do research and continue to learn.
    Please.
    You're too modest.
    Don't undersell yourself.
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    @eladar said
    @DeepThought

    Either the video requires updating or the article does. I see the 2 to 3 minutes.


    The vitamin d thing, the tables supported me.
    Actually I need to watch more carefully. He did say a minute and a half, compared to an hour without light.
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    @eladar said
    https://news.yahoo.com/sunlight-destroys-coronavirus-very-quickly-new-government-tests-find-but-experts-say-pandemic-could-still-last-through-summer-200745675.html

    Looks like the government now backs what I have neen saying all along.
    Here was their statement though (in the article):
    In a statement to Yahoo News, the DHS declined to answer questions about the findings and strongly cautioned against drawing any conclusions based on unpublished data.

    Sunlight might work as a surface disinfectant (1), Vitamin D is important for your health, seasonal fluctuations in infections rates are likely (3), and sunlight in general seems to make everyone happier and healthier. But sunlight as a specific treatment for COVID-19 is dubious speculation at this point in time.

    (1) https://academic.oup.com/jid/article-abstract/221/3/372/5645407
    (2) https://www.bmj.com/content/356/bmj.i6583
    (3) https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.19.20071951v1
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    @wildgrass said
    Here was their statement though (in the article):
    In a statement to Yahoo News, the DHS declined to answer questions about the findings and strongly cautioned against drawing any conclusions based on unpublished data.

    Sunlight might work as a surface disinfectant (1), Vitamin D is important for your health, seasonal fluctuations in infections rates are like ...[text shortened]... www.bmj.com/content/356/bmj.i6583
    (3) https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.19.20071951v1
    Nobody in this thread has claimed sunlight as a treatment.

    Although if the UV is up, 15 minutes of direct sunlight, or more if needed would not be bad.
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    @eladar said
    Nobody in this thread has claimed sunlight as a treatment.

    Although if the UV is up, 15 minutes of direct sunlight, or more if needed would not be bad.
    Taking a shower with soap would be more effective.
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    @wildgrass said
    Taking a shower with soap would be more effective.
    I am talking about the surrounding environment. All exposed surfaces as you walk around outside are being sterilized quuckly if the UV is correct.

    No need to sterilize the surroundings with chemicals.
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    @eladar said
    I am talking about the surrounding environment. All exposed surfaces as you walk around outside are being sterilized quuckly if the UV is correct.

    No need to sterilize the surroundings with chemicals.
    I didn't know it spread at all (or that much) through the environment. Is it known what percentage of new cases are caused by environmental exposure vs. direct human-human contact?
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    @wildgrass said
    I didn't know it spread at all (or that much) through the environment. Is it known what percentage of new cases are caused by environmental exposure vs. direct human-human contact?
    You did not know you could get the virus by touching something with the virus on it?

    A typical example is a door knob.
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    @eladar said
    You did not know you could get the virus by touching something with the virus on it?

    A typical example is a door knob.
    Is it known what percentage of new cases are caused by environmental exposure vs. direct human-human contact?
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    @wildgrass said
    Is it known what percentage of new cases are caused by environmental exposure vs. direct human-human contact?
    When this first came out, it was the only way it was described as happening. That is why they said do not touch your face and wash your hands regularly.
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    Oh, never mind anything... if you can't even spell the name of the virus correctly, you shouldn't be allowed to have an opinion.
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